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Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 21:39:04 -0400
From: gzambeck1 <gzambeck1@me*.ne*>
To: Steve Schultz <se2schul@pi*.ma*.uw*.ca*>
CC: CaptnDale@ao*.co*, mjblackmd@ya*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: DIR talk vs DIR diving
Steve:

Have you done much work on the DFC (Dynamic Flow Control) of the first stage of
the
Balanced Diaphragm first stage to reduce the IPD ( Intermediate Pressure
Dropout)?

 Did some work on the Odins to increase performance of regulator ports, worked 
well on
some 400 ft stuff a few years ago.  Sheck didn't have much experience in colder
water
since he dove in water below 60 deg F.

Scuba Pro gets a bad rap since the basic models are a good solid design for most
recreational diving.

Greg Zambeck

Steve Schultz wrote:

> I was getting some ice diving info from one of the Swedish brothers a
> while back.  I believe they use MK14's with apeks seconds under the ice
> for big dives.  I wish there were more info out there on this cold water
> stuff.  From what it seems to me, those Swedish guys are the ones to talk
> to about dives like this.
>
> BTW, they use enviro kits on the 1st stages.
>
> steve
>
> On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, gzambeck1 wrote:
>
> > So your willing to say that a MK10  used 200 ft under the ice on air, set
to these
> > pressures (125 to 145 psi above ambient) is not going to freeze up on me? 
Is this
> > statement also good for Trimix (TX12/45) at 330 under the above condition?.
This
> > is in consideration of the specific heat of the gas mixtures.
> >
> > Greg Zambeck
> >
> >
> > CaptnDale@ao*.co* wrote:
> >
> > > In a message dated 7/29/00 7:38:40 AM Central Daylight Time,
> > > gzambeck1@me*.ne* writes:
> > >
> > > << On the MK14 regulator, what is the interstage pressure and the
second stage
> > >  cracking pressure that you set the regulator for both recreational and
> > > technical
> > >  diving? >>
> > >
> > > The factory spec for the intermediate pressure of all Scubapro first
stages
> > > is 125 to 145 psi above ambient.  Usually, out of the box, the factory
> > > setting will be about 140 to 145psi.  They are set to the high end of the
> > > range for better airflow for the recreational diver.  I adjust the i.p.
down
> > > to near 125psi for cold water.  Even with the older style MK10, MK15 and
MK20
> > > if the i.p. is set low like this there is little likelyhood of icing,
unless
> > > you are a real Hoover or you do something stupid like using your second
stage
> > > to directly fill a lift bag.  The new model of the MK20 has a composite
> > > piston and an insulating sleeve with sharp ridges to break away ice.  I
think
> > > that it should be a pretty good cold water regulator as long as the i.p.
is
> > > reset low.  The MK14 is nearly impervious to freeze-up.
> > >
> > > I usually set Scubapro balanced second stages, such as the G250, G500 and
> > > S600 for a breaking pressure of between 1" to 1.4" H2O -- more to the high
> > > side for cold water.  The D400 does not need to be readjusted for cold
water.
> > >
> > > Safe diving,
> > > Dale
> >
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