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From: "Tim Ross" <diverse@un*.on*.ca*>
To: <Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: ABC on Diving the San Diego - COKE ALERT
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 22:54:33 -0500
Hi Art,

I understand your point, but it doesn't matter if Tony intentionally
influences anyone. He is so far out to left field that it doesn't matter if
he catches the ball. There will always be the new guys, that will look and
say" Gee, that looks soo cool!", without any real understanding of the
stupidity involved.

Best,

Tim Ross

----- Original Message -----
From: <Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 8:55 AM
Subject: RE: ABC on Diving the San Diego - COKE ALERT


> I don't think Tony built that rig for the San Diego.  If you read this was
> the first time in the water with it. He was trying it out.  Would you do a
> long deco dive on a new rig?  I certainly would not.  Seems to me Tony did
> the only smart thing, do a no deco dive with the new rig.  In case the
shit
> hits the fan he's at the surface with no deco obligation.  Tony routinely
> dives the dives the Doria each year.  I would suspect that's the reason
for
> the rig.  Never have too much gas in my opinion.
>
> Tony, like many divers (me included) dive the same rig all the time.  I
> personally don't like changing configuration or changing the
characteristics
> of my rig.  I'm routinely in zero viz. and I like everything to be in the
> same place and feel the same way all the time.  Why would I dive a single
on
> a 100-foot dive then switch to doubles for 250?  If I'm on an 80-foot air
> dive or 250 foot mix dive, the configurations the same with the inclusion
of
> an intermediate stage bottle and argon.  If I had a smaller argon bottle
I'd
> probably make that standard too.  That way the configuration stays the
same
> as much as possible.  Who cares if I come up with 3/4 of my gas left after
a
> shallow dive...?
>
> I wouldn't worry about Tony influencing anyone to run out and dive the
same
> rig.  For one the cost is prohibitive for most.  Tony's not in the
business
> of building dive gear.  It took him a long time to build this new one, I
> doubt he'd build one for someone else.  I've been on boats many times with
> Tony and I've never heard him telling anyone that they should dive
anything
> even remotely similar to his rig.
>
> Art.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christian Gerzner [SMTP:christiang@pi*.co*.au*]
> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 6:54 AM
> To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Cc: Scaleworks@ao*.co*
> Subject: Re: ABC on Diving the San Diego - COKE ALERT
>
> Scaleworks@ao*.co* wrote:
>
> > Guys,
> (big snips)
>
> > And please give me a break, no one is going to be showing up with
> a knockoff
> > Tony Maffatone Rig on a dive boat. Pick on TDI or someone killing
> students,
> > this great perceived threat Tony poses to the tec business is
> laughable. Tony
> > loves what he does, and does it for himself, so what, what is the
> problem?
>
> A good point, provided he only kills himself.
>
> The problem is that that rig would probably (I'm guessing it's
> weighty)
> give me a broken back and I'm not small. The problem is that I
> consider
> that rig extreme overkill for a 111 ft (or whatever) dive (I make no
> comment other than possible weight on the rig itself). Equally I
> consider that the other photos of other divers in their multitank
> configurations are overkill for that dive. I repeat, FOR THAT DIVE.
>
> My guess is that this was a "pretend" tech dive for purpose (it
> would
> seem) of  the article and the publicity.
>
> Hell's teeth, 111 ft? Even 130 ft? With twins at least? Yes, I know,
> DIR
> sort of requires twins. Nevertheless.
>
> > The general public looks at Tony, they probably think he looks
> cool, big
> > deal. The general public could give a crap about tec diving, so
> don't worry
> > about your public image, you don't have one. Tec diving to the
> public is
> > "Death on the Doria" , "Nobel Laureate Dies", glamour sells, face
> the facts,
> > gotta have good copy you know. Mabel in Minnesota doesn't care
> about a cave
> > or Billy Mitchells Fleet, it is not news.
>
> The general public IS NOT the problem. The novice, easily
> influenced,
> diver who looks at and reads this, and perhaps considers this "way
> cool", IS the problem.
>
> Christian
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