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Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 21:52:55 -0400
To: Al Marvelli <ajmarve@ba*.ne*>
From: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>
Subject: Re: ABC on Diving the San Diego - COKE ALERT
Cc: Scaleworks@ao*.co*, Gilldiver@ao*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
At 08:58 PM 7/30/00 -0400, Al Marvelli wrote:
>Capt. JT,
>
>I am not a cardiologist, but there are pictures of Capt Janet from 20 
>years ago
>that one might think were taken a month ago. So you cannot use her as an 
>example
>of one who is ignoring the call of Mother Time.

Hi Al, we had such discussions on the boat today about the photo. Jim 
did  tell us of where he worked (Lifenet or something like that) and told 
us how nearly all there overweight people had signs of heart disease. So he 
has firsthand knowledge on the subject, not me.


>It is often said among the cavers that JJ is not a subject for insults 
>because of
>his personality and attitude < and rightly so> and I think Janet should be 
>in a
>similar category. I think if you had the opportunity to meet her you would
>understand better.

I would dive with her and hold no ill feelings toward her because of her 
weight. That was not the point of my post at all.


>I can understand your general motivation and i am also of the opinion that one
>needs fitness to dive generally and even more so for the more advanced 
>stuff  but
>I cannot agree with attacks on this particular person.

I am not attacking her at all, someone else posted the story not me. I 
think everyone should ask yourself this question " Can I lift her in the 
boat should I need to save her", it does not matter how strong she is, when 
she may be the one needing the help.


>I look forward to meeting you on Thursday; have a good week.

Very much look forward to meeting everyone myself.

JT


>Al Marvelli
>
>Capt JT wrote:
>
> > Hey Guys
> > If you are thinking my post is an attack on the Wahoo, Capt Janet, or its
> > divers. Your wrong. I have several divers that dive with me who have a
> > weight problem and gear problems. I am being nice to those 2 on this list
> > compared to the way I hammer those that dive with me that do not do any
> > thing about there weight or poor choices in gear. I will not defend them
> > for being WEAK minded, truth is fat people have a history of heart
> > problems. None of the positive things you say will keep a fat person from
> > having a heart problem. They must stop eating so much and work out alittle.
> > Tony may live diving that bullshit rig of his, but there is always ONE fool
> > out there who will copy that shit and kill their self. Anybody who
> > justifies putting more tanks on or making a rig like that because they ran
> > out of air once is a dumb ass. The problem is usely poor planning
> > ,execution, training, and fitness.
> > I have no problem with Capt Janet or Tony personally, I just think they are
> > poor examples for technical diving and should not be put in spotlight for
> > the unknowing to judge everyone else by.
> >
> >     At 04:34 PM 7/30/00 -0400, Scaleworks@ao*.co* wrote:
> > >You guys can glean an incredible amount of information from a few photos,
> > >maybe you all need to be working for Psychic Friends Network.
> > >
> > >Tony speaks for himself, if you have issues with him, go dive with him 
> on the
> > >Wahoo, I am sure he will clear up any questions you may have, your all a
> > >bunch of bigshots in print.
> > >
> > >As for Janet, she is an important resource for the diving industry as a
> > >whole. She embodies what a tech diver should strive to be in knowledge and
> > >attitude. In and on the water, she is second to none. Your insults and
> > >embarrasment in regards to Janet show what pompous, self important 
> buffoons
> > >you truly are. So you dive deep, big deal, a monkey could be trained 
> to dive
> > >deep, and many of you prove that. The lot of you is what gives tech 
> diving a
> > >bad name, not the likes of Janet and Tony.
> > >
> > >I know Bill Mee and George Irvine have no problem jumping in the water 
> with
> > >Janet, maybe you know something they don't. Would you like to clue us 
> in big
> > >tough guy tech divers?
> > >
> > >Later
> > >
> > >Kevin Gannon
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> > Email     captjt@mi*.co*
>

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water"
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