A long hose is preferable as it provides more
flexibility. For instance, it rides better than a
short hose when scootering, it is always easier to
share with, etc.

What I am saying is that open water is open water, and
that means you should have no NEED for a long hose
other than convenience. Having a long hose on an open
water rig does not mean you can do overhead with that
rig, or "create" a virtual overhead or other need for
redundancy which is not implied in O/W rigs.

I also said you do not NEED backup lights on your
harness for O/W, but if you dive here in FL with the
morons who run the boats here, you WILL need them to
signal the Coast Guard when they are still looking for
you that night. I just swim to the beach, but then I
am a distance swimmer. Obviously,carrying  backup
lights is PREFERABLE.

I also said that the CONCEPTS are more important than
the gear, and that a harness with backplate and wings
stands up to all levels of diving unchanged with only
the ADDITION of the tools required for the situation,
like a cave light and backup lights , or the scooter.

DIR starts with the mindset and the gear starts with
the backup reg around the neck and the breathing of
the primary reg which is what is donated in an OOA
situation.

Get the concepts across and the "WHYS" and worry
about the hose lengths when that understanding becomes
obvious, not take a gear rig and stick it up their ass
with no explanation or some hopeless inability to
articulate the concept or answer all the "what ifs".

I guarantee you that no person on this planet can out
argue me in the logic of DIR and I will send them away
convinced I am right, but unfortunately those who are
involved with me, other than Jablonski himself, are
mostly unable to do this at all and get tripped up
right and left and leave the inquisitive unsatisfied.
The hardened pros in the WKPP generally will not even
discuss it due to the frustration.

I personally do not give a whup and only occasionally
get motivated to discuss it, and will do so generally
only if the audience is big enough for me to repeat
what I consider to be so obvious as to be near to
breathing and walking in my mind. Jablonski is equally
as frustrated with this as I am, but he has ten times
my patience.

Obviously I have put one hell of  a lot more thought
into diving than anyone else out there ( other than
JJ, and he is the only person I really care to discuss
it with ) and that is why JJ and I have always been
out in front and stay that way now, and why it is so
easy for those who can get what we have , and so
hopeless for the strokes who can not.



-----Original Message-----
From: Harry, Quinn F <quinn.f.harry@lm*.co*>
To: 'trey@ne*.co*' <trey@ne*.co*>;
techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>;
Jeffrey Swann <swanncruz@ta*.ne*.au*>
Date: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 1:43 PM
Subject: RE: DIR Stage reg



George wrote:
> The "octo" hose length is also perfect as a primary
> length for your open water single tank rig.

Pardon this clueless question George, but do you mean
a long hose (5 or 7)
is not necessary on single tank, OW dives?  Or are you
referring to the
stage bottle only?

Thanks,

Quinn


Jeff wrote:
> >Dear List,
> >What is the DIR length of the low pressure hose on
> stage bottles?
> >I cannot see a measurement from the various DIR
> sites.
> >Thanks in advance.
> >It has been a lot of fun working thro' this thing
> by myself here in Darwin,
> >Oz.
> >Thanks to all those that have jumped in and given
> advice.
> >Jeff the Darwinian.
> >
> >
> >
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