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Interesting thoughts, I can understand where you coming from but have to say that when you teaching anything you usually have to break things down into small logically linked steps. ie you don't teach someone to drive at 70mph on a motorway in lesson 101. So if we can agree the learning process is a series of small steps its normal to recognise and make a award as you reach certain milestones in the learning process. I think the secret it to make sure you have the correct learning steps in place and to make sure a student understands there own limitations. - or do you know different. Is there a SCUBA training agency that you would recommend that teaches you everything you need to know on day one? :-) David ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Brown <mbrown@le*.co*> To: 'David Applin' <David.Applin@ta*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 8:30 PM Subject: RE: Define Tech Diving > > Hey Dave! You know what, I think the first mistake people make is > trying to take a hostile activity like functioning UNDER WATER for > longer than you can hold your breath; then divide it into > beginner/advanced/professional/technical/cave/night/blah blah blah! > > The fact that commercial agencies like PADI, IANTD, TDI/SDI think in a > linear fashion is ridiculous! Think about it like this. In order to get > your drivers license, you first go to the DMV. They make you purchase > the most expensive vehicle you can afford. Then, the instructor tells > you that he is going to teach you to start the car, use the gas pedal, > use the blinkers, brakes and trunk lid. BUT, He will not teach you to > steer until you get your ADVANCED license!. Oh yeah, I will not teach > you to drive on 4 lane roads until you get your Lane-Mix license. > Parallel Parking? Forget it! That's only for those crazy PP Drivers! No > one in their right mind would do that kind of driving. Seat Belts? Don't > need them, not with a car like that! > > Diving does not have a linear progression to learning. There is not a > formal start and stop to the process. Therefore I do not think the > continued sub-categories of diving should be condoned. > > Diving is a potentially fatal activity. Like all activities of this > nature; you should learn as much as possible and not constrain yourself > to a specific category. > > Whaddya think? > > -mb > > PADI - The ultimate Multi-Level Marketing Organization > *REMEMBER! Tell all your friends about us! :-) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Applin [mailto:David.Applin@ta*.co*] > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 9:06 AM > To: Trey; TechDiver List > Subject: Define Tech Diving > > > I've been lurking for some time now, and occasionally get great info > from > this list and Quest and the GUE web site. there are obviousley some very > experienced divers who are willing to share info. Theres also some very > inexperienced divers trying to imitate Trey and a few others! But look, > out > of the 3000 odd posts in my inbox 90% of them are just people slaging > each > other off! > > Now this is the Techdiver list -- yes! > > Would it be an good idea to define what tech diving is? > > Actually define where, in the opinion of the most experienced, the cut > off > between recreational diving and tech diving lays? > > I'm not talking DIR here, after all we all know that DIR can apply for > all > types of diving > > What do you think Trey? it would save you loads of time not having to > respond to none tech diving issues > > Ps > By the way, we should keep Dr Black on the list, the antics between him > and > several others on the list keep me laughing all night and are possibly > some > of the most talked about posts. This helps keep DIR being talked about > :-) > > PPs > Anyone know of a good GUE instructor in the UK? > > > David > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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