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And the other point is that to say nothing so as to not offend the family members ONLY SERVES THE PURPOSE OF PROTECTING THOSE RESPONSIBLE. While it may be painful to realize that someone died doing things "by the book" or "by what they were taught", at least they can have the comfort of knowing that this brought about a change so that noone else will have to go through the same thing. It also makes for nice fuel for the lawsuits when they find out that the stupid thing their loved one did was exactly what they were taught. This is the real reason for the excuse of the "effect on the family members" line of reasoning. Don -----Original Message----- From: trey@ne*.co* [mailto:trey@ne*.co*] Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 8:47 AM To: Mcinnis, Don; HeliumDiver@ao*.co*; cobber@ma*.ci*.co* Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com; cavers@ca*.co* Subject: Re: OzTek 2000 Don, this liar is full of shit: Gilliam's article about me in Deeptek is a perfect exempt of "ad hominum abuse", it is a perfect example of "invective", it is a perfect example of lying bullshit and hypocrisy. Gilliam tried calling my boss and quoting fake emails to him. I had to have my lawyer take care of his fat slob lying ass. That is an example of what TDI and Gilliam are all about . Dead divers families? How about the fact that Rob Palmer, a person formerly known to revile deep air diving and said so in his book, "Blue Holes of the Bahamas", was killed deep air diving with the TDI morons, including this liar from OZ, in Egypt? That is what I called a "stupid fuck". The definition of a stupid fuck is anyone who gets involved with Gilliam or TDI , in my opinion. -----Original Message----- From: Mcinnis, Don <Don.Mcinnis@in*.co*> To: 'HeliumDiver@ao*.co*' <HeliumDiver@ao*.co*>; cobber@ma*.ci*.co* <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*> Cc: 'techdiver@aquanaut.com' <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; 'cavers@ca*.co*' <cavers@ca*.co*> Date: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 7:53 AM Subject: RE: OzTek 2000 ><SNIP> > >GI and his crowd routinely make similar statements. They're getting old. I > >can take the heat and so can most of the people who despise him. This isn't > >an issue of whether or not I can take ad hominem abuse. It's about >business. > JJ was uninvited to OzTek at least in part due to GI's attitude and JJ's >refusal to reprove him. Associating with someone who routinely spews >invective and who, for example, publicly demeans those who've died in diving > >accidents without regard for the families and friends of the dead will >always >be bad business, and this situation with OzTek, however unfair to JJ, is >proof of that. ><SNIP> > >Death is not polite. In fact it will ruin an otherwise perfect day diving. >Calling bullshit on the fact that the person who met his demise was "trained >to get killed" by the inferior equipment he was sold and the inferior skills >he was taught is the only way to institute any changes. Shaking your head >and just saying "that's too bad, it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy" >will mean that IT WILL STILL KEEP HAPPENING TO OTHER NICE GUYS. The dive >business as usual is what killed them and business as usual will continue to >until the industry wakes up and smells the shit. Polite or not, that is the >reality. > >Don > >BTW I have the balls to sign my own name. Too bad yours were removed by the >industry a long time ago. > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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