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From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: "gzambeck1" <gzambeck1@me*.ne*>
Cc: "Robert Silvers" <rsilvers@ph*.co*>,
     "techdiver"
Subject: scooter facts vs idiocy was Re: Anyone use AquaZepp Scooters?
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 07:53:58 -0400
Greg, you are so fucking stupid it is embarrassing.
You have no earthly idea what you are talking about in
any of this.

The motors in my scooters are wound to an RPM and
torque.I will not tell you or anyone else how or why
they hold their torque or speed while getting the burn
time,but will say that they run at 24 volts, not 36,
you lying piece of shit.

None of your other inane comments are even close to
true,not even about Bill Stone, and do not apply to my
scooters. Some may apply to the bullshit copies out
there,or to the bullshit that Bill Stone drew up, but
not to mine or to what Stone actually did. Stone had a
whole different set of problems that I will not ever
reveal, nor will I discuss why what works on a
Farralon or an Aqauzepp will not work with mine.With
idiots like you out there dispensing advice, all of my
secrets are safe.

Again, you dumb asshole,when any of you come up with a
scooter that has my track record , I'll buy ten of
them.

You have never seen one of my old ones let alone the
new version, and you ignore the reality of their use
and track record, while failing to realize that there
is nothing out there that can claim the same.

You have no clue about in water designs, and you have
no idea here I get my information or why I know what I
know. You are so severely outclassed here it is
ridiculous. IDIOT is what you are , and you keep
proving it over and over.

You are truly one seriously stupid human being-I can
not think of anyone I have ever run across that is as
dumb as you are and is not under supervision or
incarcerated.

This slop below is the most ridiculous crap I have
ever read. You could not pass  high school physics
class. Greg, you either are a blatant liar or an
imbecile - which is it?

-----Original Message-----
From: gzambeck1 <gzambeck1@me*.ne*>
To: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
Cc: Robert Silvers <rsilvers@ph*.co*>;
techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Sunday, July 09, 2000 7:03 AM
Subject: Re: Anyone use AquaZepp Scooters?


>The motors are rewound for 26 volts and your running
36 volts through them.
>That was the problem at Wakulla II, They rewound the
motors and they stopped
>burning out.  Predator has done the same thing with
their units. Some units
>do not have overload protection on the circuit
boards.  This is the method
>that has been used in the past to increase speed.
>
>The face seal is machined close to the outer diameter
of the tube and
>bulkhead plate.
>This makes the unit easy to damage when the unit is
damaged.
>
>If anyone has any questions send me a fax number and
I will send you a set
>of prints.
>I will also post the ACAD. 14 drawings on a web site
to avoid the large
>message size.
>
>There are several other problems with the design.
>No vent plug to release the negative pressure.  Units
are assembled in warm
>air and the unit is cooled during the dive.
>
>Wedge pads are need to separate the nose plate and
the rear motor housing.
>
>The back plate is too thin and needs reinforcement.
>
>Pressure from dives can damage the rear motor plate
which holds the shaft
>bearing.
>The struts crack from the force applied to the
propeller shaft.
>
>The reduced pipe diameter for the motor interrupts
the flow from the battery
>tube.
>This section need to be tapered.  There are units out
with this change.
>
>I will include design notes with the drawings and the
engineering
>references.
>
>Greg Z.
>
>
>
>Trey wrote:
>
>> Zambeck - this is all wrong. Quit posting it. I
>> can see that the term "Zambeck Stupid" is still
valid.
>> I heard you were dead, so maybe somebody else just
>> assumed your name and is carrying on in your place.
>>
>> There is only one scooter,only one price, and none
of
>> that is shown on the Halcyon web site. What is
shown
>> is an old version that I no longer make, a motor
>> option ( slow) that I no longer offer, and both the
>> long and short version ( which simply means the
body
>> and battery packs) are the same price.
>>
>> That price is 3500. The scooter is much different
than
>> what is shown, and due to the better design it
>> tolerates much more depth and goes faster, and is
made
>> with a computer program I wrote which saves enough
>> money that I can offer the rewound fast motor while
>> still lowering the overall price of the scooter by
250
>> dollars .
>>
>> If one were to want a diffrent body and battery
pack
>> those are both 400 only, or 300 and you buy
whatever
>> batteries you want.
>>
>> These are the scooters that we use in the WKPP, and
>> the sale of these devices to other teams and divers
>> outside of the WKPP helps support the WKPP.
>>
>> Greg, go fuck with somebody else - you should have
>> learned your lesson with me by now - most people
have.
>>
>> To: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
>> Cc: Robert Silvers <rsilvers@ph*.co*>;
>> techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>> Date: Friday, July 07, 2000 5:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: Anyone use AquaZepp Scooters?
>>
>> >Rob go to:
>> >
>> >http://www.halcyon.net/catalog.shtml
>> >
>> >look up gavin scooters
>> >
>> >ITEM                    DESCRIPTION
>> >PRICE
>> >HAL-DPV-SBS     Short Body 100 min  run time 135
fpm
>> $ 4385
>> >HAL-DPV-SBC     Short  Body  55 min run  time 200
fpm
>> $ 4695
>> >HAL-DPV-LBC     Long Body 100 min  run time 200
fpm
>> $ 4885
>> >HAL-DPV-STR     Cradle
>> >$  525
>> >
>> >Page 9 of 12
>> >
>> >Trey wrote:
>> >
>> >> They are not 4,000 .
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Robert Silvers <rsilvers@ph*.co*>
>> >> To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>> >> Date: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 4:56 PM
>> >> Subject: Anyone use AquaZepp Scooters?
>> >>
>> >> >I am looking for a scooter or DPV and at this
>> point I am not planning on
>> >> >being a cave diver but you never know in a year
or
>> two. So, for open water
>> >> >casual/fun use, I am looking at Mako ($2000?),
>> AquaZepp LST-14-24 ($2400 +
>> >> >shipping and import duty), or Farallon mk7e
($3000
>> list). I know this is a
>> >> >Gavin group, but that is over $4,000 and out of
my
>> range for a new one. Any
>> >> >thoughts?
>> >> >
>> >> >    --Rob.
>> >> >
>> >> >--
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>
>Trey wrote:
>
>> Zambeck - this is all wrong. Quit posting it. I
>> can see that the term "Zambeck Stupid" is still
valid.
>> I heard you were dead, so maybe somebody else just
>> assumed your name and is carrying on in your place.
>>
>> There is only one scooter,only one price, and none
of
>> that is shown on the Halcyon web site. What is
shown
>> is an old version that I no longer make, a motor
>> option ( slow) that I no longer offer, and both the
>> long and short version ( which simply means the
body
>> and battery packs) are the same price.
>>
>> That price is 3500. The scooter is much different
than
>> what is shown, and due to the better design it
>> tolerates much more depth and goes faster, and is
made
>> with a computer program I wrote which saves enough
>> money that I can offer the rewound fast motor while
>> still lowering the overall price of the scooter by
250
>> dollars .
>>
>> If one were to want a diffrent body and battery
pack
>> those are both 400 only, or 300 and you buy
whatever
>> batteries you want.
>>
>> These are the scooters that we use in the WKPP, and
>> the sale of these devices to other teams and divers
>> outside of the WKPP helps support the WKPP.
>>
>> Greg, go fuck with somebody else - you should have
>> learned your lesson with me by now - most people
have.
>>
>> To: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
>> Cc: Robert Silvers <rsilvers@ph*.co*>;
>> techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>> Date: Friday, July 07, 2000 5:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: Anyone use AquaZepp Scooters?
>>
>> >Rob go to:
>> >
>> >http://www.halcyon.net/catalog.shtml
>> >
>> >look up gavin scooters
>> >
>> >ITEM                    DESCRIPTION
>> >PRICE
>> >HAL-DPV-SBS     Short Body 100 min  run time 135
fpm
>> $ 4385
>> >HAL-DPV-SBC     Short  Body  55 min run  time 200
fpm
>> $ 4695
>> >HAL-DPV-LBC     Long Body 100 min  run time 200
fpm
>> $ 4885
>> >HAL-DPV-STR     Cradle
>> >$  525
>> >
>> >Page 9 of 12
>> >
>> >Trey wrote:
>> >
>> >> They are not 4,000 .
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Robert Silvers <rsilvers@ph*.co*>
>> >> To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>> >> Date: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 4:56 PM
>> >> Subject: Anyone use AquaZepp Scooters?
>> >>
>> >> >I am looking for a scooter or DPV and at this
>> point I am not planning on
>> >> >being a cave diver but you never know in a year
or
>> two. So, for open water
>> >> >casual/fun use, I am looking at Mako ($2000?),
>> AquaZepp LST-14-24 ($2400 +
>> >> >shipping and import duty), or Farallon mk7e
($3000
>> list). I know this is a
>> >> >Gavin group, but that is over $4,000 and out of
my
>> range for a new one. Any
>> >> >thoughts?
>> >> >
>> >> >    --Rob.
>> >> >
>> >> >--
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>> `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.
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