I cannot reach it because the tank is too short; it is only a 95.  Maybe a
104 would be easier.  It is already up as high as it can go in the Halcyon
single tank adapter and still engage both straps.

I have the Halcyon ACB system.   It kind of gets in the way, and it doesn't
solve the problem of being extremely buoyant if you take your gear off.  In
fact, I think I originally got rid of it because George said it was not DIR,
and someone else commented that I needed to be able to take off my gear and
not float away.  I couldn't see a way around that argument, so I got rid of
the ACB.

Also, I have two back plates (one Al, one SS), so moving the ACB system from
one to the other would be a pain, or I'd have to get two.

Cam

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mcinnis, Don" <Don.Mcinnis@in*.co*>
To: "'Cam Banks'" <cam@ca*.co*>; "Jim Cobb"
<cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>; "Techdiver Mailing List"
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 2:02 PM
Subject: RE: Weights


> If you are needing dropable weights, look at the Halcyon ACB system. It is
> dropable weight that is on the waist strap and doesn't require a sepatare
> belt.
>
> With your H valve setup, are you riding the tank too low to not be able to
> reach it? It seems like that defeats a lot of the purpose of them if you
> can't reach it without being able to get to it.
>
> Don
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cam Banks [mailto:cam@ca*.co*]
> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 12:20 AM
> To: Jim Cobb; Techdiver Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Weights
>
>
> I have dove in current a bit and in a wreck (once).  It doesn't seem
> ridiculous to
> think about having to take off your gear as a last resort to get unstuck,
> and not being absolutely pinned to the ceiling during the process would be
> nice.
>
> Also, when I'm diving my single tank on a backplate, I really can't even
> reach either of my H-valve handles without undoing the waist strap and
> pulling the rig halfway over my head.
>
> As far as not going into any holes where my gear might get caught up,
well,
> I think I'd classify any wreck as such a hole.
>
> Really, I'm just trying to get a consensus on weight belts and DIR, but it
> still seems unclear.  I think I am going to go with a 12 pounder and P/V
> weights for the rest.  The 20 pounder is killing my back, that's for sure.
>
> Cam
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>
> To: "Techdiver Mailing List" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 1:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Weights
>
>
> > Fighting invisible dragons is a common problem with divers from what
I've
> > seen. Preparing for all sorts of horrible scenarios means loading more
and
> > more and more ridiculous gear all over you which ultimately become the
> > source of the problem.
> >
> > If you have ever been inside a wreck or if you have ever dove in any
> current
> > you would realize how ridiculous the thought of doffing your gear is. If
> > getting out of your gear is part of the plan, for example those nuts who
> > explore the inside of deep U-boats, then by all means use weightbelts
etc.
> >
> > But 99% of your diving will not involve taking off your rig so why plan
> for
> > that 1% when there are so many other alternatives available? For example
> > don't go into any holes where your gear might get caught up. Quite a
> > concept, eh?
> >
> >    Jim
> >  -------------------------------------------------------------------
> >  Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/
> >
> > > From: "Cam Banks" <cam@ca*.co*>
> > > Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:56:45 -0700
> > > To: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>, "dmdalton" <dmdalton@qu*.ne*>
> > > Cc: "Techdiver Mailing List" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > > Subject: Re: Weights
> > >
> > > I could easily imagine getting tangled on something you could not cut
in
> a
> > > wreck (cable, thick net, whatever), and having to take off your gear
to
> > > disentangle.  Is this just my overactive imagination, or is it a valid
> > > scenario?  Not just an academic question, as I plan to be doing a lot
of
> > > wreck diving in my dive career.
> > >
> > > Cam
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>
> > > To: "Cam Banks" <cam@ca*.co*>; "dmdalton" <dmdalton@qu*.ne*>;
> > > "Steve" <se2schul@uw*.ca*>; "John McMillan"
> <mcmillan_knit@on*.ne*.au*>
> > > Cc: "Techdiver Mailing List" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 3:07 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Weights
> > >
> > >
> > >> I don't take off my gear. But, you need to be able to stay down with
> > > little
> > >> or no gas, as in an emergency , and you need to be able to get up by
> > >> dropping something. You guys figure it out. Also, for boat diving,
you
> do
> > >> not want some massive overweighing on the gear so that if you take it
> off
> > > to
> > >> get into the boat,  and there is some problem you will not lose it.
> Also,
> > >> you do not want some huge heavy rig while walking around on a boat at
> > > sea -
> > >> too stupid.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Cam Banks <cam@ca*.co*>
> > >> To: dmdalton <dmdalton@qu*.ne*>; Steve <se2schul@uw*.ca*>;
> John
> > >> McMillan <mcmillan_knit@on*.ne*.au*>
> > >> Cc: Techdiver Mailing List <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > >> Date: Monday, June 19, 2000 4:17 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: Weights
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> I think I went through this with George a while ago, and the net
> effect
> > > of
> > >>> his answer was that you need to be able to take off your gear
without
> > > being
> > >>> ridiculously buoyant.  So, I'm shooting for about a 12-lb weightbelt
> as a
> > >>> compromise between the least weight on my waist possible and not
being
> > > able
> > >>> to take off my gear.
> > >>>
> > >>> Of course, the dangers of "george said this" are manifold, but
that's
> at
> > >>> least how I recall it.  Basically, you also need to be wearing
enough
> > >> weight
> > >>> to offset the buoyancy you will gain as you consume your gas,
wherever
> > > you
> > >>> put it.
> > >>>
> > >>> Cam
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: "dmdalton" <dmdalton@qu*.ne*>
> > >>> To: "Steve" <se2schul@uw*.ca*>; "John McMillan"
> > >>> <mcmillan_knit@on*.ne*.au*>
> > >>> Cc: "Techdiver Mailing List" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > >>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2000 9:19 AM
> > >>> Subject: Re: Weights
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Couple of thoughts on this issue:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> If you are going to say you must be in a neutral state without you
> gear
> > >> on
> > >>>> (just you and your exposure suit) they you must figure what you
need
> to
> > >>>> offset your exposure suit - consequently it can't be just a 6#
weight
> > >>> belt.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> If you are diving trilaminate your buoyancy factor is consistent
from
> > > the
> > >>>> surface to whatever depth you are going to dive - assuming you dive
> it
> > >>> right
> > >>>> and only add enough gas to take the pinch off. With this suit you
> will
> > >>> need
> > >>>> 16-30# based on your undergarments and your size. A 6# belt would
not
> > >>> offer
> > >>>> much help in keeping you balanced without your other gear.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> If you are diving a neoprene drysuit or a wet suit, you will NEVER
> have
> > > a
> > >>>> balanced situation except at one depth. If you are neutral at  the
> > >> surface
> > >>>> with a 20# belt you will be negative 10# at 33fsw. Not exactly
> > >> "balanced".
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The definition of "balanced" that I understand (and utilize) is
that
> > > your
> > >>>> gear (with tanks between 0 & 500 psi) allow you to be neutral with
no
> > > air
> > >>> in
> > >>>> your wings/BC at 10-20 ft. That way the only excess weight your
> > > wings/BC
> > >>> has
> > >>>> to provide lift for is the weight of the air in your tanks at the
> start
> > >> of
> > >>>
> > >>>> your dive, allowing you to dive smaller (=less drag) wings)
(assuming
> > > you
> > >>>> dive trilaminate).
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Use your head.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Dave
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>> From: Steve <se2schul@uw*.ca*>
> > >>>> To: John McMillan <mcmillan_knit@on*.ne*.au*>
> > >>>> Cc: Techdiver Mailing List <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > >>>> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2000 11:30 PM
> > >>>> Subject: Re: Weights
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hi John,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I honestly can't think of a situation that would require you to
take
> > >> off
> > >>>> all
> > >>>>> your gear underwater besides getting stuck in a restriction so
small
> > >>> that
> > >>>>> you shouldn't have been diving it anyway.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I think that the chances of getting into a situation needing full
> > > gear
> > >>>>> removal is so slight that it doesn't warrant a weight belt.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Weight belts do have their place in diving, I still use mine quite
> > >>>>> frequently depending on the setup I'm using, I just never dive it
> > > with
> > >>>> more
> > >>>>> than 6 lbs now.  Even getting rid of those 6 lbs makes a huge
> > >> difference
> > >>>> for
> > >>>>> comfort.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> So John, what likely scenarios require you to take all your gear
> off?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Steve
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>> From: John McMillan <mcmillan_knit@on*.ne*.au*>
> > >>>>> To: Steve <se2schul@uw*.ca*>
> > >>>>> Cc: Techdiver Mailing List <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > >>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2000 5:05 PM
> > >>>>> Subject: Re: Weights
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> "Gi Day" Steve.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Steve you said it in your last comment "WEAR A BALANCED RIG".
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> If and WHEN the shit hits the fan and the diver has no choice but
> > > to
> > >>> get
> > >>>>> out
> > >>>>>> of his gear.
> > >>>>>> If the diver independent of his rig is balanced, the task loading
> > > in
> > >> a
> > >>>>>> highly stressed situation will be significantly reduced.
> > >>>>>> If you need to add weight to your rig to achieve this balance
then
> > > do
> > >>>> so,
> > >>>>> a
> > >>>>>> P/V weight in this case would be practical.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The guys that don't take their gear off under water if its the
only
> > >>> way
> > >>>> to
> > >>>>>> fix the problem DIE.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I also hate wearing a weight belt, however it doesn't have to be
> > > too
> > >>>> heavy
> > >>>>>> as it is only adjusting the buoyancy of the diver not the Diver
and
> > >>> the
> > >>>>> rig.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hoo Roo
> > >>>>>> Johnny Mack
> > >>>>>> Down Under.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>>> From: Steve <se2schul@uw*.ca*>
> > >>>>>> To: John McMillan <mcmillan_knit@on*.ne*.au*>; Techdiver Mailing
> > > List
> > >>>>>> <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 1999 11:48 PM
> > >>>>>> Subject: Re: Weights
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Since when does a P/V weight constitute weights "all over the
> > > place
> > >>>> "???
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Why is a weight belt more effective?  Why are you taking your
> > > gear
> > >>> off
> > >>>>>>> underwater?
> > >>>>>>> Think about this... Pressed Steel 104s + Drysuit + SS backplate
=
> > >> no
> > >>>>>>> additional weight!
> > >>>>>>> What do those guys do when they take off their gear underwater?
> > >>> They
> > >>>>>> don't.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Comfort-wise, I hate weight belts with a passion.  Getting rid
of
> > >> it
> > >>>>> will
> > >>>>>>> provide more comfort, less wear on your exposure suit, and
better
> > >>>>> airflow
> > >>>>>>> through your drysuit.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Getting up off the bottom is easy... dive a balanced rig.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> steve
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>>>> From: John McMillan <mcmillan_knit@on*.ne*.au*>
> > >>>>>>> To: Techdiver Mailing List <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 7:30 AM
> > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Weights
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I read a lot of crap in the many posts that have been presented
> > >>> over
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>> last few days regarding weighting. Most of the suggestions have
> > >>> been
> > >>>>>> down
> > >>>>>>>> right bloody dangerous, stupid, and idiotic. Hey guys what
> > >>> happened
> > >>>> to
> > >>>>>>>> keeping it simple. We should weight ourselves with out tanks
> > >>> harness
> > >>>>> etc
> > >>>>>>>> attached, just negative. if we are still negative with the
> > > tanks
> > >>> and
> > >>>>>>> harness
> > >>>>>>>> etc on then we are correctly weighted. Using the traditional
> > >>> weight
> > >>>>> belt
> > >>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>> the most effective way of doing this. Have a bloody good think
> > >>> about
> > >>>>> why
> > >>>>>>> you
> > >>>>>>>> should be weighted this way before you make any comments. The
> > >> guys
> > >>>>> that
> > >>>>>>> want
> > >>>>>>>> to wear tank weights etc all over the place have a think about
> > >>>>> buoyancy
> > >>>>>>>> control if you have to take your gear off in water at depth. If
> > >>> and
> > >>>>> when
> > >>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>> shit hits the fan and you have to do this with weights all over
> > >>> your
> > >>>>>> gear
> > >>>>>>>> "good luck".
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Hoo Roo
> > >>>>>>>> Johnny Mack
> > >>>>>>>> Down Under
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>>>>> From: John Walker <techdive@ea*.ne*>
> > >>>>>>>> To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > >>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 10:11 AM
> > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Weights
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Hell Cobber they give me a sore back.  I'd bet Mike Black
> > >>> (you
> > >>>>>> know,
> > >>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>> guy that doesn't dive) would consider this a Type 2 DCS hit.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Dr. John Walker
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>>>>>> From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>
> > >>>>>>>>> To: Al Marvelli <ajmarve@ba*.ne*>; Paul Braunbehrens
> > >>>>>>>>> <Bakalite@ba*.co*>
> > >>>>>>>>> Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 9:02 AM
> > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Weights
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Weight belt for wetsuits. Weight belt fucks up the airflow
> > > in
> > >>>> your
> > >>>>>>>> drysuit
> > >>>>>>>>>> and is a failure point. I hate weight belts.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Jim
> > >>>>>>>>>
> >
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>>> Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> From: Al Marvelli <ajmarve@ba*.ne*>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 03:24:40 -0400
> > >>>>>>>>>>> To: Paul Braunbehrens <Bakalite@ba*.co*>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Weights
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I dont mean to flame Paul personally but I have to ask
> > > some
> > >>>>> simple
> > >>>>>>>>> questions
> > >>>>>>>>>>> here.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Why is the weight belt not ideal? its cheap, easy to
> > > learn,
> > >>>> and
> > >>>>>>> found
> > >>>>>>>>>>> everywhere.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> The belt gives you a built in failure indicator< if you
> > > are
> > >>>>> paying
> > >>>>>>>>> attnetion
> > >>>>>>>>>>> you can feel it slip, and thats easy to correct on your
> > >> own>
> > >>>> and
> > >>>>>> if
> > >>>>>>>> its
> > >>>>>>>>>>> under you crotch stap has a built in anti ditch safety.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> and also
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> what is the facination with non ditchable weight?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> especially on a rig that is limited to no stop diving by
> > >>>>>>> definition??
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I can understand its significance on a deco dive, but you
> > >>> all
> > >>>> do
> > >>>>>>>> realize
> > >>>>>>>>>>> that if your worst fears come true and you undergo a
> > >> buoyant
> > >>>>>> ascent
> > >>>>>>> ,
> > >>>>>>>>> you
> > >>>>>>>>>>> are merely performing skills practice?? That evey agency
> > >> has
> > >>>>> blow
> > >>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>> go
> > >>>>>>>>> as
> > >>>>>>>>>>> its last resort for ndl diving?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> have any of you removed your weights during a dive? what
> > >> was
> > >>>> the
> > >>>>>>>> result?
> > >>>>>>>>> I
> > >>>>>>>>>>> had my belt off three times in front of the class i was
> > >>>> helping
> > >>>>>> with
> > >>>>>>>>> tonite,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> no problem with an al 80 with an al plate and a 1/4 suit
> > >> in
> > >>>> 12
> > >>>>> ft
> > >>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>>> water,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> i had plenty of time to dump the bc and remain with my
> > >>> weight
> > >>>>> belt
> > >>>>>>>> with
> > >>>>>>>>> just
> > >>>>>>>>>>> a little effort. Are we all just not paying attention?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> worried about buckle failure? wear two.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> We are not even going to get into the pony bottle, but
> > > fyi
> > >>> my
> > >>>>>>>>> understanding
> > >>>>>>>>>>> of hogarthian means ultra minimal as in no reserve gas,
> > >> even
> > >>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>> overhead.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> and of course the bottle is unnecessary for anything, you
> > >>> can
> > >>>>>> either
> > >>>>>>>>> blow
> > >>>>>>>>>>> and go or you cant and if you cant you need a real
> > >> redundant
> > >>>>>> system,
> > >>>>>>>> not
> > >>>>>>>>> 13
> > >>>>>>>>>>> freaking cu ft. This w/e i was forced to dive off the bow
> > >>> b/c
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>> customers
> > >>>>>>>>>>> used up all the rack space with their pony bottles filled
> > >>> with
> > >>>>>>> nitrox
> > >>>>>>>>> too
> > >>>>>>>>>>> hot for the bottom< typical, they have all been hosed and
> > >>>> regard
> > >>>>>> dir
> > >>>>>>>> as
> > >>>>>>>>>>> internet bs>and then i had to endure the shop owners
> > >>> bitching
> > >>>>>> about
> > >>>>>>> my
> > >>>>>>>>>>> doubles being too much gear for the dives< which they
> > > were,
> > >>>> but
> > >>>>> i
> > >>>>>>>> needed
> > >>>>>>>>>>> them empty and gas costs money so i aint freaking wasting
> > >>>> it>so
> > >>>>> i
> > >>>>>> am
> > >>>>>>>>> ready
> > >>>>>>>>>>> for all comers on this pony bullshit.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> You dont need a pony bottle unless you are solo diving
> > >>> without
> > >>>> a
> > >>>>>>> plan.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Think it through people.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Al Marvelli
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> PS if those two quarry guys dont send me snail addresses
> > >> ill
> > >>>>> never
> > >>>>>>> be
> > >>>>>>>>> able
> > >>>>>>>>>>> to mail them schedules and since i lost my inbox i dont
> > >>>>> havetheir
> > >>>>>> e
> > >>>>>>>>>>> addresses, so get back to me fellas.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Paul Braunbehrens wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I went through tons of archives last night, trying
> > > to
> > >>> get
> > >>>>> to
> > >>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> bottom of this.  First, let me tell you my setup.  I'm
> > >>> diving
> > >>>> a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> backplate and wings, with a drysuit, and (for now) a
> > >> single
> > >>>>> tank
> > >>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> a pony bottle.  Leaving enough air in my suit so I can
> > >>> still
> > >>>>> move
> > >>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> do a safety stop at the end of a dive, I need 17 pounds
> > > on
> > >>> my
> > >>>>>> belt
> > >>>>>>> (I
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> dive in cold water).
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Right now this weight is on my weight belt, which is ok
> > >> but
> > >>>> not
> > >>>>>>>> ideal.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Perusing the archives, it seems the consensus is to make
> > > a
> > >>> V
> > >>>>>> weight
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> for at least some of this.  Let's say it will weigh
> > > about
> > >> 9
> > >>>>>> Pounds.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> This still leaves 8 pounds.  I could then either leave
> > >> that
> > >>>> on
> > >>>>> my
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> weight belt, or I could put it in the Halcyon weight
> > >>> pouches.
> > >>>>> I
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> assume that when I go to doubles I won't need most of it
> > >>>>> anymore?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, DiveRite sells a "trim weight" that will fit
> > > between
> > >>>> the
> > >>>>>>> bolts
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> on the backplate.  I was thinking of this as an option.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I read a lot of posts saying the canister light is
> > > 6
> > >>>>> pounds
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> negative (or thereabouts).  Mine is 1.5 pounds negative,
> > >>>> which
> > >>>>>>> means
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I have to account for that weight somewhere.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> One post I read which made a lot of sense, said that you
> > >>>> should
> > >>>>>>> have
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> about 5 or 6 pounds of ditchable weight (if any).  When
> > >> you
> > >>>>> ditch
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> your weight you don't want to become so positive as to
> > > end
> > >>> up
> > >>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> lunar orbit.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to get as close to hogarthian as possible
> > >>> before
> > >>>>>>> moving
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to doubles, so any help is appreciated.  I'm even moving
> > >> my
> > >>>>>>> canister
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> back on my harness (I had it upside down and attached to
> > >>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> backplate, but I find that it has a tendency to sit on
> > > the
> > >>>>> wiring
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> connection...not good).
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
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> > >>> the
> > >>>>> mac
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