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Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 22:21:16 -0400
Subject: Re: Making sure this dead horse is thoroughly beaten (wasRe:
     Computers WAS Re: Oxygen Toxicity - using 100% in open water)
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
To: Al Marvelli <ajmarve@ba*.ne*>, Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Al, I can't imagine any scenario either rec or tech were dropping a weight
belt and rocketing to the surface does a diver any good. If you get yourself
neutral where you can do a controlled swimming ascent to the surface you are
better off. You don't need to be in deco to die of an embolism. Many people
dive way over-weighted because it is so easy to add a bunch of weight to a
weight belt.

Not using a weight belt forces a diver to get his buoyancy right for a
particular type of diving. In my case I always take my canister light, this
suffices for me. In a tech scenario you need the extra weight with AL
doubles and a wetsuit due to their buoyancy characteristics. Even in this
situation you use just enough weight to be neutral, not a ton so you rocket
to the surface at the slightest difficulty.

   Jim
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> From: Al Marvelli <ajmarve@ba*.ne*>
> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 19:41:39 -0400
> To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
> Subject: Re: Making sure this dead horse is thoroughly beaten (wasRe:
> Computers WAS Re: Oxygen Toxicity - using 100% in open water)
> 
> the weightbelt thing was about a single tank diver doing no deco dives. Why
> would
> you advocate non ditchable weight for that diver? nevermind that George
> himself
> advocates a weightbelt for single tankers and for aluminum doubles diving,
> even al
> doubles w.stages.
> 
> Public or private just tell me why a single tank diver in open water is better
> off
> with weight he cant ditch and that no body else can ditch for him. Explain why
> you
> rig is better off always being inherently negative rather than balanced. I
> cant
> explain it, and I am not about to accept "its feels better" as a
> justification.
> 
> Al Marvelli
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cobb wrote:
> 
>> Without a doubt learning the hard way is the way to go. Surviving a
>> near-death experience due to a worthless piece of crap gear and then tossing
>> said gear into the garbage can, or selling it for 10 cents on the dollar is
>> an excellent way to learn stuff. It really makes an impression.
>> 
>> Don't listen to any DIR people, just remember what they said if, er, when
>> you survive your clusterfuck so you know what to get when, er, if, you get
>> back from your blown trip.
>> 
>> So purchase this equipment immediately and go "learn".
>> 
>> 1. OMS Stuporwings
>> 2. Poseidon showerheads
>> 3. Weightbelts, and lots of them
>> 4. Steel stages
>> 5. The latest trimix computer
>> 6. A Buddy Inspiration rebreather
>> 7. Any old hose routing, the more complex the better
>> 
>> Good Luck!
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>> 
>>> From: Thomas McDonald <tmcdonal@sw*.ne*>
>>> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 18:36:32 -0500
>>> To: ScottBonis@ao*.co*
>>> Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
>>> Subject: Making sure this dead horse is thoroughly beaten (wasRe: Computers
>>> WAS Re: Oxygen Toxicity - using 100% in open water)
>>> 
>>> Finally, I agree with you that people shouldn't blindly accept as good or
>>> bad
>>> because an individual says so, as that's where true learning and
>>> understanding
>>> come in.
>> 
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