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Al Marvelli wrote: ~ >um, no. The no decompression limit concept means that from any point >within the >the ndl you can go directly to the surface without a stop. As long >as you exhale >you should stand a resonable chance of not getting bent and not embolizing. It >would be nice to maintain 30 fpm, but thats not required. Great! So it would be better to use a system where if you have a failure you have a "reasonable" chance of living. Why not use a system where you have no problem whatsoever? >< buddy, redundant >system,etc> Redundant system I have. Buddy...you mean the guy who in 10 foot swell pulls out a huge bowie knife because he thinks he's tangled in kelp, just as I'm swimming over to help him? That guy? I ditched him when I realized that I'm safer by myself. I dive in Monterey, Carmel. Visibility is often 10 ft. here. Unless you're holding hands the whole time, a buddy is totally worthless. > >Having participated in a rescue where tyhe victim lost his weigths >at the bottom, >and stayed there after he panicked and spit out his reg despite wearing a foam >drysuit< he told us so after we revived him>, i can tell you that when faced >with the choice of drowning because i cant ditch any of my weight >and my pony is >empty vs toss all my shit and live like a pretzel, im going to Littiz, How did he manage to stay down after losing his belt? The whole thing sounds stupid. The pony was empty? This whole thing makes no sense, the only time you spit out your primary and switch to the pony is when there is a failure, or you're at 15 ft and doing a 3 minute stop. If there is a failure, and you are using the pony, then you are on your way up! Isn't this the same basic principe as doubles? I don't know, it sounds like someone who shouldn't be diving in the first place, who doesn't understand how to use a pony, and who values his weight belt more than his life. >Pennsylvannia every time.< Littiz PA , btw is the home of the pretzel.> I always thought the pretzel was a german invention. > >Besides this is all academic if you remember to pay attention to >your gear < ie >weight belt> during the dive, just like you need to monitor the spg, >the timer, >not get entangled, not get lost, clear you mask etc etc etc. My current thinking is that the risk of losing the belt is higher than the risk of not being able to go up. I can't imagine not being able to go up. I have redundant gas supply, and I have redundant buoyancy. If I'm wrong, please tell me, but I can't come up with a scenario that would cause this. Well, ok, I can. My corrugated inflator rips off and there is a huge tear in my drysuit. Even then I could probably still make the drysuit hold enough air to float me, and even if the primary tank fails I could stick the pony reg. into my drysuit sleeve and purge it. If all else fails, I could unclip the pony, get out of my harness, and swim up. Now that would be a good skill to practice in the pool! Of course paying attention to your gear is important, but things will go wrong. You will get narced. You will get lost. Something will fail. That's just life. -- Paul Braunbehrens mailto:Bakalite@ba*.co* http://www.daw-mac.com Mailing list for digital audio on the mac -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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