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I dont mean to flame Paul personally but I have to ask some simple questions here. Why is the weight belt not ideal? its cheap, easy to learn, and found everywhere. The belt gives you a built in failure indicator< if you are paying attnetion you can feel it slip, and thats easy to correct on your own> and if its under you crotch stap has a built in anti ditch safety. and also what is the facination with non ditchable weight? especially on a rig that is limited to no stop diving by definition?? I can understand its significance on a deco dive, but you all do realize that if your worst fears come true and you undergo a buoyant ascent , you are merely performing skills practice?? That evey agency has blow and go as its last resort for ndl diving? have any of you removed your weights during a dive? what was the result? I had my belt off three times in front of the class i was helping with tonite, no problem with an al 80 with an al plate and a 1/4 suit in 12 ft of water, i had plenty of time to dump the bc and remain with my weight belt with just a little effort. Are we all just not paying attention? worried about buckle failure? wear two. We are not even going to get into the pony bottle, but fyi my understanding of hogarthian means ultra minimal as in no reserve gas, even in overhead. and of course the bottle is unnecessary for anything, you can either blow and go or you cant and if you cant you need a real redundant system, not 13 freaking cu ft. This w/e i was forced to dive off the bow b/c the customers used up all the rack space with their pony bottles filled with nitrox too hot for the bottom< typical, they have all been hosed and regard dir as internet bs>and then i had to endure the shop owners bitching about my doubles being too much gear for the dives< which they were, but i needed them empty and gas costs money so i aint freaking wasting it>so i am ready for all comers on this pony bullshit. You dont need a pony bottle unless you are solo diving without a plan. Think it through people. Al Marvelli PS if those two quarry guys dont send me snail addresses ill never be able to mail them schedules and since i lost my inbox i dont havetheir e addresses, so get back to me fellas. Paul Braunbehrens wrote: > OK, I went through tons of archives last night, trying to get to the > bottom of this. First, let me tell you my setup. I'm diving a > backplate and wings, with a drysuit, and (for now) a single tank and > a pony bottle. Leaving enough air in my suit so I can still move and > do a safety stop at the end of a dive, I need 17 pounds on my belt (I > dive in cold water). > > Right now this weight is on my weight belt, which is ok but not ideal. > > Perusing the archives, it seems the consensus is to make a V weight > for at least some of this. Let's say it will weigh about 9 Pounds. > This still leaves 8 pounds. I could then either leave that on my > weight belt, or I could put it in the Halcyon weight pouches. I > assume that when I go to doubles I won't need most of it anymore? > Also, DiveRite sells a "trim weight" that will fit between the bolts > on the backplate. I was thinking of this as an option. > > Also, I read a lot of posts saying the canister light is 6 pounds > negative (or thereabouts). Mine is 1.5 pounds negative, which means > I have to account for that weight somewhere. > > One post I read which made a lot of sense, said that you should have > about 5 or 6 pounds of ditchable weight (if any). When you ditch > your weight you don't want to become so positive as to end up in > lunar orbit. > > I would like to get as close to hogarthian as possible before moving > to doubles, so any help is appreciated. I'm even moving my canister > back on my harness (I had it upside down and attached to the > backplate, but I find that it has a tendency to sit on the wiring > connection...not good). > > Cheers, > > -- > Paul Braunbehrens mailto:Bakalite@ba*.co* > http://www.daw-mac.com Mailing list for digital audio on the mac > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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