Jim

I have found the Velco strip mentioned by Wendell Grogan, or the cheap and
cheerful, electrical tape to be effective as a precaution against a kink in
the hose, or whatever.   It helps to prevent the ballooning of the condom
which can cause the glue to come unstuck.  If you use electrical tape do not
have it tight!  It is there to stop ballooning only.

David Shimell
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registered in England and Wales under company number: 1999363, registered
office as above

-----Original Message-----
From:	John Grogan [SMTP:jgrogan@wo*.co*]
Sent:	Monday, June 12, 2000 10:54 AM
To:	Kevin Pickering; Jim Burke
Cc:	techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject:	RE: P-valves

Jim,

Despite what Kevin has said, it is not necessarily the valve that is causing
the problem.  Leaks can come from a number of sources:

1) There may be some leakage from the condom because it has come partly off
during use;
2) The condom may not have been properly attached to the hose thus resulting
in some leakage;
3) The p-valve may not have been sealed properly to your drysuit and the
leak is actually sea water;
4) The valves may have been damaged over some usage - your foot may have
badly snagged part of the assembly when putting your suit on.

Having looked at or used various other designs including the "well known" UK
one, I can say that the EE one is the best yet - in fact I have it in both
of my suits.

Over the years, I've used most condons available and have found the UK ones
to be the worst.  We now import ours direct from the US.  The major problem
with the UK condoms is that there isn't enough adhesive and they tend to
roll off during use.  I eventually dumped the remaining condoms as I just
got too fed up with them - that was also a source of leakage for me.

Best,
John.

> Sorry to hear about the wet leg. Your mistake was buying the EE p-valve,
> there are well made, trouble free, British balanced p-valves on the market
> from about 60
> quid up. The only failure I've had with mine is when I didn't
> attach a tube
> properly - yuk, banished to the far end of the boat! The only
> maintenance I
> do is
> a rinse in warm soapy water (if I can remember).
>
> Just about the best sheath you can get is  "Aquadry Clear Advantage" and I
> quote: "The completely clear silicone self adhering continence
> sheath". It's
> manufactured here in the UK by Seaton Healthcare Group plc under licence
> from Mentor Urology Inc which sounds American so maybe you can get them in
> the States.
>
> The address is Tubiton House, Oldham, OL1 3HS and the phone No. 0161 652
> 2222  Fax 9090.
>
> 30 sheaths will cost you 50 quid and takes about a week to deliver. Last
> time they sent me the wrong size i.e. XXL instead of "rampant
> bull" size. I
> phoned them and said there was no way I could squeeze into XXL. The very
> next morning the right size was delivered along with a Business
> Reply label
> to stick on the box that had to be returned. They obviously look
> after their
> customers.

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