I'm not sure you can amoratise the cost like this as you can only die once.
But the odds do get worse so if you are talking a CF/$ ratio you are
correct, this unit would be 800/5-10 or $80-$150 per, depending on the
convolution of your configuration.

And a set of OMS wings gives you, uh I guess 400/5 or $80 per. Let's see a
quick-release buckle is about $1.59, there are about 4 failure points in one
of those, truly a bargen at 40 cents/per CF. Now I see why they are so
popular!

Christ how would you do a computer, there are hundreds of failure points in
one of those... But lets be kind and say 50, so a Trimix computer at
$1500/50 would give you $300/CF, certainly the most expensive method of
decreasing your survival odds...

So in total your typical stroke is paying, oh, maybe a $700-$900/PPCF
(Premium Per Cluster Fuck).

Let's face it, being a stroke is simply not cost effective. So the next time
you are down there in a life or death struggle with your crappy scuba gear,
let this be the last thing that runs through your head.

   Jim
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> From: "Mcinnis, Don" <Don.Mcinnis@in*.co*>
> Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 14:13:27 -0500
> To: 'Jim Cobb' <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>, Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*,
> techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject: RE: 2 high pressure ports ?
> 
> Isn't the price/performance curve amazing. The price is now down to $80 per
> clusterfuck. And to think, we were paying much more than that a few years
> ago. ;-)
> 
> Don
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Cobb [mailto:cobber@ma*.ci*.co*]
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 10:27 AM
> To: Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*; techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject: Re: 2 high pressure ports ?
> 
> 
> No, that unit is yet another travesty of engineering being foisted on the
> gullible rec.scuba diver. Black probably owns several of them. The kit I am
> talking about enables you to add 5 to 10 additional failure points and
> clusterfucks to your rig and comes in a nice, neat box for only $800 or so.
> 
> Jim
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> 
>> From: <Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*>
>> Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 16:38:19 -0400
>> To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
>> Subject: RE: 2 high pressure ports ?
>> 
>> Jim,
>> 
>> I think I know which one you are talking about. I think in one of their
> adds
>> or on their web site they have you filling your pony bottle from your main
>> via a HP hose connecting the 2 throughout the dive.  Something about never
>> not having air available in your pony when you need it.
>> 
>> What a hoot!
>> 
>> Art.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jim Cobb [SMTP:cobber@ma*.ci*.co*]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 4:25 PM
>> To: ScottBonis@ao*.co*; klind@al*.ne*; Paltz, Art;
>> techdiver@aquanaut.com
>> Subject: Re: 2 high pressure ports ?
>> 
>> Actually there is a company out there which makes a "universal
>> manifold"
>> which allows you to make doubles out of any conceivable combination
>> of
>> tanks, a strokes dream come true. You can see it advertised in tech
>> magazines. It use HP hoses and other ridiculous parts and adapters
>> to
>> accomplish this.
>> 
>> I agree that the routing options is the engineers original
>> intention.
>> 
>> Jim
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>> 
>>> From: <ScottBonis@ao*.co*>
>>> Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 14:14:47 EDT
>>> To: klind@al*.ne*, Art.Paltz@r2*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
>>> Subject: Re: 2 high pressure ports ?
>>> 
>>> In a message dated 5/31/00 3:33:49 AM, klind@al*.ne* writes:
>>> << Actually Art:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My guess is that most manufacturers provide two ports to provide
>> more hose
>>> 
>>> routing options.  I doubt they are really expecting people to use
>> 2 SPGs or a
>>> 
>>> backup SPG to an air integrated computer.  Besides, the 2 port
>> regulators have
>>> 
>>> been around longer than air integrated computers.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Remember that the vast majority of these regs only get used for
>> single tank
>>> 
>>> recreational diving where "personal preference" is the order of
>> the day.  If
>>> 
>>> you have only 1 LP port then you only have one hose routing option
>> for the SPG
>>> 
>>> unless you flip the regulator upside down.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> With two ports you now have twice as many convoluted ways to route
>> your SPG or
>>> 
>>> console.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -KL >>
>>> 
>>> I agree with this completely.  In fact I'm glad to see another
>> question being
>>> answered instead of just people being flamed, on this list.
>>> 
>>> Take care and safe diving,       Scott
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