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From: "Mcinnis, Don" <Don.Mcinnis@in*.co*>
To: "'Jim Cobb'" <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>, Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*,
     techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: 2 high pressure ports ?
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 14:13:27 -0500
Isn't the price/performance curve amazing. The price is now down to $80 per
clusterfuck. And to think, we were paying much more than that a few years
ago. ;-)

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Cobb [mailto:cobber@ma*.ci*.co*]
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 10:27 AM
To: Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: 2 high pressure ports ?


No, that unit is yet another travesty of engineering being foisted on the
gullible rec.scuba diver. Black probably owns several of them. The kit I am
talking about enables you to add 5 to 10 additional failure points and
clusterfucks to your rig and comes in a nice, neat box for only $800 or so.

   Jim
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> From: <Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*>
> Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 16:38:19 -0400
> To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject: RE: 2 high pressure ports ?
> 
> Jim,
> 
> I think I know which one you are talking about. I think in one of their
adds
> or on their web site they have you filling your pony bottle from your main
> via a HP hose connecting the 2 throughout the dive.  Something about never
> not having air available in your pony when you need it.
> 
> What a hoot!
> 
> Art.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Cobb [SMTP:cobber@ma*.ci*.co*]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 4:25 PM
> To: ScottBonis@ao*.co*; klind@al*.ne*; Paltz, Art;
> techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject: Re: 2 high pressure ports ?
> 
> Actually there is a company out there which makes a "universal
> manifold"
> which allows you to make doubles out of any conceivable combination
> of
> tanks, a strokes dream come true. You can see it advertised in tech
> magazines. It use HP hoses and other ridiculous parts and adapters
> to
> accomplish this.
> 
> I agree that the routing options is the engineers original
> intention.
> 
> Jim
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> 
>> From: <ScottBonis@ao*.co*>
>> Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 14:14:47 EDT
>> To: klind@al*.ne*, Art.Paltz@r2*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
>> Subject: Re: 2 high pressure ports ?
>> 
>> In a message dated 5/31/00 3:33:49 AM, klind@al*.ne* writes:
>> << Actually Art:
>> 
>> 
>> My guess is that most manufacturers provide two ports to provide
> more hose
>> 
>> routing options.  I doubt they are really expecting people to use
> 2 SPGs or a
>> 
>> backup SPG to an air integrated computer.  Besides, the 2 port
> regulators have
>> 
>> been around longer than air integrated computers.
>> 
>> 
>> Remember that the vast majority of these regs only get used for
> single tank
>> 
>> recreational diving where "personal preference" is the order of
> the day.  If
>> 
>> you have only 1 LP port then you only have one hose routing option
> for the SPG
>> 
>> unless you flip the regulator upside down.
>> 
>> 
>> With two ports you now have twice as many convoluted ways to route
> your SPG or
>> 
>> console.
>> 
>> 
>> -KL >>
>> 
>> I agree with this completely.  In fact I'm glad to see another
> question being
>> answered instead of just people being flamed, on this list.
>> 
>> Take care and safe diving,       Scott
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