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From: "Scott" <scottk@hc*.co*>
To: <bdi@bd*.co*.au*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Deep Air, was Re: Black comes out of the closet
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 09:32:36 -0700
Now, IANTD has taken triox, and made it require two stages, and all the rest
of the bullshit they hung on it. Anyone that can handle diving simple nitrox
can handle diving triox, the MOD being the important issue. The gas is a
godsend for at least one of my buds, strictly in the recreational arena,
because he gets his socks narcked off at 80 fsw. We blend him up some 25/35
and we dive, only now he isn't narked. Triox was, to my knowledge, GI and JJ
baby, not for doing 200 footers, but to do recreational diving with less
stress to your bod, and reduced narcosis. IANTD has seen fit to make it
another bullshit course to fleece you with before Trimix, which is where you
should be learning how to do 200 footers anyway.

Normoxic Trimix Diver
The IANTD Normoxic Trimix Diver program is aimed at those who wish to dive
in the zone between 130 fsw (39 msw) and 200 fsw (60 msw) but are not
comfortable doing so on air. The course uses normoxic mixtures and consists
of 12 dives and one three (3) hour confined water session. Six (6) dives are
on air to depths between 100 fsw (30 msw) and 130 fsw (39 msw) and six (6)
dives involve practicing specified skills at depths between 30 fsw (9 msw)
and 90 fsw (27 msw). All dives will be performed with two (2) stage
cylinders. Four (4) Trimix dives are also made in the course with two (2) at
depths up to 165 fsw (50 msw) and two (2) at depths up to 200 fsw (60 msw).
This is an intense seven (7) day program enabling the graduate to be
qualified to dive normoxic Trimix to 200 fsw (60 msw). It does not qualify
the diver to use hypoxic mixtures to participate in dives deeper than 200
fsw (60 msw). The text for the course is IANTD's Technical Diver
Encyclopedia, associated Technical Diver Workbook, Slides and newly
developed Water-proof Tables.

And you are further hosed:

Mixing and Blending Technician
This program is intended to teach detailed technical information to mixing
and blending technicians. It is intended to explain the standards,
properties, equipment, oxygen safety, handling and cleaning procedures for
mixing or blending diving gases other than air, such as Nitrox (EANx) or
Trimix.

Trimix Gas Blender
This program has been designed to train competent personnel in the safe
handling of oxygen and the preparation of Trimix

Why are these two courses?

Didn't we cover oxygen safety in the first course? Its simple math, and,
again, 02 being the potential trouble maker.

Its a glorified PADI hose job. Axle nut class and cotter pin class. People
vote with their wallets.

Scott

----- Original Message -----
From: <bdi@bd*.co*.au*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: Deep Air, was Re: Black comes out of the closet


> At 08:01  30/05/00 , ScottBonis@ao*.co* wrote:
> >In a message dated 5/29/00 12:51:34 PM, scottk@hc*.co* writes:
> >
> ><< Depending upon which *instructor* you talk, Adv Nitrox and Deep Air
*will*
> >
> >be required. IANTD may not publicly say they require it, but the
instructor
> >
> >very well can, and in the one case I am aware of, *will* require it.
> >
> >
> >For one reason; money.
> >
> >
> >"You just bring me your paycheck, and I'll tell you how much you have
left
> >
> >to live on."
> >
> >
> >Scott >>
> >
> >Hi Scott from the other Scott, again,
> >
> >Man, so cynical at such a young age.  Do you really believe that ALL
> >technical dive instructors are in it simply for the money?  If so, that's
> >really too bad.
> >
> >Let's knock off the BS and tell it like it is.  IANTD (for both deep air
and
> >Adv. nitrox) only requires dives to 101 feet.  In fact the deepest they
allow
> >is 130 feet.
>
> There's nitrox. There's decompression diving (technical nitrox).
> And there's adding another gas - trimix.
>
> I count three steps, with the last one being about the smallest.
>
> Now, line up those three steps against the great Wall of Courses
> that IANTD uses to soak the students and you'll notice some excess.
> That's the real bullshit.
>
> rgrds billyw
>
>
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