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From: "Sidney Brock Frederickson" <Bfrede1615@em*.ms*.co*>
To: "Scott Gudmundsen" <gudmund@si*.co*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: DIR is a system. Change it and it's no longer DIR... it's something else.
Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 09:32:15 -0500
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
    Scott:
    Since I was off diving yesterday I missed alot of this BUT I'm in
somewhat the same boat as you, ie. I dive solo rather violate Rule #1. To
keep from getting hung up on semantics I tell any who ask that my rig is
Hogarthian and that I aspire to dive DIR. Yesterday I arrived at the site
just in time to watch one of our local instrokters.
I'm happy report they are starting to run out of nasty things to say. The
worst they could come up with was "Is that one of those $100. drysuits?". Of
course after this
she promptly told her students it was Ok to go snorkelling after Scuba. I
left as the hot dog (and probable beer) bust was starting.

    Jason- Do what I did. Hit every site, good and bad, and Learn The
Difference. Look at the Xmas Tree Configs of some and compare those to what
you see on GUE, WKPP, Techdiver.com, etc. Most of all, try toughening up a
bit. Trey, Cobb, Scott and now myself to some small degree, get a bit weary
of answering the same questions over and over. As I said before, when you
get time, drop me a line and we'll go diving, your choice of locations.

    Now if we can just do something about the jetskiers......

Brock




----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Gudmundsen <gudmund@si*.co*>
To: Kevin Pickering <kevpix@gl*.co*.uk*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2000 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: DIR is a system. Change it and it's no longer DIR... it's
something else.


> Kevin,
>
> I see your point, but realize that Jim Cobb is just saying that if you
> change anything in the DIR system, it's no longer DIR. What's wrong with
> that? I dive a system close to DIR. In fact, my rig is exactly DIR in
every
> respect... except I dive solo most of the time. So I'M NOT A DIR DIVER.
> Diving solo is not part of the DIR system.  It's not evil, it doesn't hurt
> my feelings, yet I can still state that diving DIR is the best way to go
(in
> my opinion anyway) and still preach its virtues. My setup is DIR, but I'm
> not when I dive solo. When I dive with my DIR buddy, yes, we are doing it
> the DIR way. Otherwise, it's something else.
>
> Scott Gudmundsen
> Vernal, Utah!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kevin Pickering <kevpix@gl*.co*.uk*>
> To: Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2000 9:52 AM
> Subject: Re: Black is smarter than Bill Hamilton
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
> >
> > > snip<
> > > This is one thing you boneheads out there keep missing. If you are not
> > using
> > > the system en-toto, the it's not the system. Why do you people have
such
> a
> > > problem with that? If you take a airplane and remove the wings, it's
not
> > an
> > > airplane anymore, is it? Call it whatever the hell you want but its
not
> a
> > > fucking airplane. You dopes are arguing "you people who insist on
wings
> > > being on an airplane are a bunch of lock-stepping zealots." Do you all
> > > understand how stupid you sound?
> > >snip<
> >
> > No Jim, it's you who sounds stupid.
> >
> > An aeroplane has wings, agreed, but they can be placed on top, in the
> > middle, at the bottom, you can have the big wings at the back with small
> > (canard) at the front. You can have one wing, two or three (triplane).
> > Personal preference in the aviation industry.
> >
> > If the guy cant get out of a harness because of a previous physical
injury
> > then putting a clip in is no big deal. Not perfect we know but at least
he
> > can keep diving and dive as close to DIR as he can get. Cut the guy some
> > slack.
> >
> > The trouble with a few people on this list is that the DIR configuration
> as
> > a "uniform" is more important than any other consideration including
> diving
> > itself. If your not wearing the right uniform you're not in our our
club.
> If
> > you're not in our club then you're a stroke.
> >
> > Jim you want to stick to things you're best at like maintaining you're
web
> > site. That site has done more for DIR then any words that you have
posted
> to
> > this list.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
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