I personally find that my xx years experience in recreational diving
help me to clarify what's right and what's wrong. My personal opinion
is that is much better to evolve to a DIR Diver rather to wake up being one.

This way you understand better how manufactures are� selling the beautiful
and
colorful instead of the right. This way you understand that you shouldn't�
believe anything
unless they proof it to you. This way you whip just because the equipment
you bought a month ago
for lots of $$$ is junk so you make right decisions next time.

The right staff that you learn the hard way stay for ever in your head
�
Manos

Al Mottram wrote:

> I'm Al Mottram and new to the list.� Only been diving
> a bit less than 2 years. Cents to date are PADI OW and
> NAUI Advanced.� I don't believe I am a "stroke" in the
> scence that I am very focussed on safe diving and am
> in a continuous learning mode.� I am presently in the
> process of converting to the DIR gear configuration as
> the budget permits. I know I have a lot to learn and
> this is a prime place for such learning.
>
> In any event and for what its worth here is my
> perspective/experience on the "Standard Agency" OW
> certifications.
>
> It was emphasised in my OW classes that this
> certification basically PREPARES you to LEARN to dive.
> The materials covered are the most basic dive skills
> and very basic concepts in dive physiology and the
> effects of pressure (depth) on the air mix.� At the
> end of the certification process, in many cases you
> still have not made your first "Dive".� You have
> however spent some time breathing underwater, and
> demonstrated the basic skills.� You are also then
> "qualified" to purchase "Life Support Equipment and
> Air".
>
> These classes do little if anything to guide you in
> the selection and rigging of gear.� These important
> aspects are learned by experience and observation and
> discussion with experienced divers, such as on this
> list.
>
> My definition of frustration is the difference between
> "What you expect" and "What you get".� If your
> expectations for the OW Certification are consistent
> with the above it will not likely be a frustrating
> experience.
>
> The OW Certification plus application of "the dirty
> harry principle" ( A man has got to know his
> limitations) will prepare you to begin to learn
> diving.
>
> Regards,Al
>
> --- �ystein Mehus <omehus@hi*.no*> wrote:
> > "Bengt J�nsson" wrote:
> > >
> > > The general consensus on this list seems to be
> > that PADI and NAU are
> > > substandard agencies and I should stay clear of
> > them. The onnly on averybody
> > > seems to think is any good is GUE. I have been
> > looing at their site but
> > > can't find any info about beginner courses. All
> > courses seems to resuire me
> > > to have several logged dive before starting. I
> > don't really see how I can
> > > acomplish this on my own.
> > >
> >
> > GUE is (for now) an agency for technical (read
> > experienced) divers. You are not going down that
> > road
> > for some time yet. What you need to do, is go to an
> > agency like PADI, NAUI, CMAS and get Open Water
> > instruction.
> >
> > > The other recomendation I think everybody agrees
> > on is that the agency is
> > > unimportant and I should get the best instructor.
> > (There seems to be a
> > > slight contradiction here...) How do I know if the
> > instructor is any good
> > > since I don't know very much about diving, only
> > what I have picked up from
> > > the lists.
> >
> > Talk to someone you know, ask them about their
> > experieces with different shops, agencies and
> > instructors. If you don't know anyone who dives, ask
> > for
> > advice on the swedish newsgroup. That would be the
> > right
> > place to get some information about
> > divecenters/instructors close to you.
> >
> > After you have completed you open water course, and
> > logged enough dives, you should be in a position to
> > decide whether tecnical diving is a direction you
> > want
> > to pursue. Then go get a GUE course if that's what
> > you
> > think you need. (BTW. have a look at the web page of
> > "Dykutbilderna i V�stervik"
> > http://www.dykutbildarna-vvik.se/home.asp). Their
> > instructors are trained with IANTD and GUE, and they
> > conduct PADI OW classes.
> >
> > Hope this helps!
> >
> > Oystein
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