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Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 09:44:02 -0400
From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: Dell Motes <dell@di*.co*>
CC: techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Manifold Misinformation
Dell, what is this "independent doubles system for travelling tech
divers"? Is that some kind of joke or what? 


Dell Motes wrote:
> 
> George, you haven't insulted me, I thought I made that clear.
> Why would gear comparisons be "badmouthing" ?
> What you do is badmouthing, trashtalking, belittlement etc.............
> Pointing out different design features is business.
> Now, get packing or your gonna miss your flight.
> Dell Motes
> Dive Rite
> 117 W.Washington St.
> Lake City, Florida 32055
> www.dive-rite.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
> To: Dell Motes <dell@di*.co*>
> Cc: techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Date: Thursday, May 04, 2000 9:12 AM
> Subject: Re: Manifold Misinformation
> 
> >Dell, what is my "nationality"? What is my "sexual preference"? I did
> >not realize that I had insulted you. I guess red neck is a
> >"nationality"?  I guess sexual prefernce is an issue with you? My
> >preference is blondes, I guess yours is either sheep or whatever is in
> >the first stall?
> >
> >The fact is , you lying, hypocritical asshole, you and Lamar badmouth us
> >and Halcyon at every opportunity, as you just did at DEMA, and I
> >received several calls from Ginnie Springs where you two half wits held
> >some kind of seminar and spent most of the time badmouthing us and my
> >friends. Not too smart given your track record of some of the most Farm
> >Animal gear ever made, like the Square Light and that recent thing with
> >the funky wrench to open it - so stupid as to be material for Saturday
> >Night Live.
> >
> >The really amusing thing about you two jokers is that you get in front
> >of a crowd and tell them that Halcyon "copied" your gear. Dell, we take
> >that as a personal insult - nobody is that stupid other than the mutant
> >that copied your square light - beyond the pale funny.
> >
> >The second really funny thing is that on your webstie you two big
> >talkers yap about how you are great "explorers" and that the people
> >there at DR do all of this big time diving. Dell, that is too funny. I
> >guess you guys have about worn Ginie Springs clean out by now with all
> >that diving, and the fact is , Jaques, if any of you ever did jack shit
> >we would not be having this conversation as you would be making gear
> >that reflected it.
> >
> >Let me suggest you sell the wheels off of your trailer and buy some real
> >gear from Halcyon.
> >
> >Dell Motes wrote:
> >>
> >> Oh, I don't take it personally George, you were bashing Dive Rite long
> >> before I got here. Come to think of it, you bash anyone and anything that
> >> disagrees with you or your choice of gear, food, clothing, nationality,
> >> sexual preference........ oh hell, lets' just say anyone different than
> you.
> >> It is safe to say I'm in a very large and diverse crowd.
> >> Have a safe flight, and I not-so-anxiuosly await your return.
> >> It won't be any different when you get back.
> >> Best,
> >> Dell Motes
> >> Dive Rite
> >> 117 W.Washington St.
> >> Lake City, Florida 32055
> >> www.dive-rite.com
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
> >> To: Dell Motes <dell@di*.co*>
> >> Cc: techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> >> Date: Thursday, May 04, 2000 8:25 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Manifold Misinformation
> >>
> >> >Dell, you can continue to entertain us with bullshit, but I just can not
> >> >participate today. Don't take it personally. You guys fool nobody for
> >> >very long. Let me know next time you or Lamar want to badmouth any of my
> >> >friends, I will be glad to pull the gear scorecard and beat you both
> >> >over the head with it for months if necesary to get it through your dumb
> >> >red neck heads to learn when to shut the fuck up. And, Dell, I love
> >> >doing it. Just not today, I have to go to LA today and and have lot to
> >> >do to get ready.
> >> >
> >> >Dell Motes wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hello George, long time no hear ;-)
> >> >> (It has been at least a couple hours).
> >> >> Why wouldn't you have time to mess with me today ??
> >> >> What makes today any different than any other day ??
> >> >> I think I'll go diving then.
> >> >> Checklist;
> >> >> Lets see, first, find a seat and shut
> up................................
> >> >> Second, go to the dumpster and get my gear. You know, the one with the
> >> dual
> >> >> o-ring seal on the manifold ...................................
> >> >> Third, don't wait for techdiver response, George can't play today, he
> >> >> doesn't have time.
> >> >> That covers it, I 'm outta here !!!!
> >> >>
> >> >> Dell Motes
> >> >> Dive Rite
> >> >> 117 W.Washington St.
> >> >> Lake City, Florida 32055
> >> >> www.dive-rite.com
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
> >> >> To: Dell Motes <dell@di*.co*>
> >> >> Cc: techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> >> >> Date: Thursday, May 04, 2000 6:09 AM
> >> >> Subject: Re: Manifold Misinformation
> >> >>
> >> >> >Dell, did you figure this out AFTER you sold the wrong center section
> >> >> >and bullshitted everyone about it? Funny, I have six of the right
> ones
> >> >> >and have always had the right ones other than when I made the mistake
> of
> >> >> >buying one from you guys. It is over at Brownies on the "Wall of
> Shame"
> >> >> >if you want to go see it.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >You coming on here with "information" about dive gear is like Edsel
> >> >> >coming back from the grave and talking about cars.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >You do not own a piece of dive gear that does not belong in a
> dumpster
> >> >> >someplace. Take seat and shut up - I do not have time to mess with
> you
> >> >> >today.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Dell Motes wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> A dial caliper is a very simple and safe way to confirm the maximum
> >> >> spacing
> >> >> >> on any double barrel o-ring style manifold.This one will be done on
> >> one
> >> >> not
> >> >> >> installed ;-)
> >> >> >> Hell, you can even use a toothpick and put pencil marks on it and
> >> still
> >> >> get
> >> >> >> the info you need.
> >> >> >> Measure the depth to the bevel which starts the sealing surface in
> the
> >> K
> >> >> >> valve. This will be where the threads stop and the smooth surface
> >> starts.
> >> >> >> Now match that measurement on the crossbar from the inner
> >> >> >> o-ring to the locknut. Just turn the locknut inward on the crossbar
> >> until
> >> >> >> you match the distance and stop. Now look at the measurement from
> the
> >> nut
> >> >> to
> >> >> >> the main body of the crossbar itself.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> If you want a more difficult, but highly convincing method with
> >> special
> >> >> >> effects, here is what you do.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Remove the outboard o-ring on the crossbar, (left or right K, it
> >> doesn't
> >> >> >> matter).
> >> >> >> Assemble the manifold and tanks, but don't put the bands on.
> >> >> >> Now see how close you have to bring the tanks together before they
> >> will
> >> >> take
> >> >> >> on gas.
> >> >> >> This doesn't even take into account high pressure or impact, which
> >> >> actually
> >> >> >> rotates the crossbar rearward, separating the valves even more.
> >> >> >> The measurement you get on either test will determine the maximum
> >> spacing
> >> >> >> for the manifold in question in order to maintain a double o-ring
> >> seal.
> >> >> >> Dell Motes
> >> >> >> Dive Rite
> >> >> >> 117 W.Washington St.
> >> >> >> Lake City, Florida 32055
> >> >> >> www.dive-rite.com
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
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> >
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