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George, you haven't insulted me, I thought I made that clear. Why would gear comparisons be "badmouthing" ? What you do is badmouthing, trashtalking, belittlement etc............. Pointing out different design features is business. Now, get packing or your gonna miss your flight. Dell Motes Dive Rite 117 W.Washington St. Lake City, Florida 32055 www.dive-rite.com -----Original Message----- From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*> To: Dell Motes <dell@di*.co*> Cc: techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Date: Thursday, May 04, 2000 9:12 AM Subject: Re: Manifold Misinformation >Dell, what is my "nationality"? What is my "sexual preference"? I did >not realize that I had insulted you. I guess red neck is a >"nationality"? I guess sexual prefernce is an issue with you? My >preference is blondes, I guess yours is either sheep or whatever is in >the first stall? > >The fact is , you lying, hypocritical asshole, you and Lamar badmouth us >and Halcyon at every opportunity, as you just did at DEMA, and I >received several calls from Ginnie Springs where you two half wits held >some kind of seminar and spent most of the time badmouthing us and my >friends. Not too smart given your track record of some of the most Farm >Animal gear ever made, like the Square Light and that recent thing with >the funky wrench to open it - so stupid as to be material for Saturday >Night Live. > >The really amusing thing about you two jokers is that you get in front >of a crowd and tell them that Halcyon "copied" your gear. Dell, we take >that as a personal insult - nobody is that stupid other than the mutant >that copied your square light - beyond the pale funny. > >The second really funny thing is that on your webstie you two big >talkers yap about how you are great "explorers" and that the people >there at DR do all of this big time diving. Dell, that is too funny. I >guess you guys have about worn Ginie Springs clean out by now with all >that diving, and the fact is , Jaques, if any of you ever did jack shit >we would not be having this conversation as you would be making gear >that reflected it. > >Let me suggest you sell the wheels off of your trailer and buy some real >gear from Halcyon. > >Dell Motes wrote: >> >> Oh, I don't take it personally George, you were bashing Dive Rite long >> before I got here. Come to think of it, you bash anyone and anything that >> disagrees with you or your choice of gear, food, clothing, nationality, >> sexual preference........ oh hell, lets' just say anyone different than you. >> It is safe to say I'm in a very large and diverse crowd. >> Have a safe flight, and I not-so-anxiuosly await your return. >> It won't be any different when you get back. >> Best, >> Dell Motes >> Dive Rite >> 117 W.Washington St. >> Lake City, Florida 32055 >> www.dive-rite.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*> >> To: Dell Motes <dell@di*.co*> >> Cc: techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com> >> Date: Thursday, May 04, 2000 8:25 AM >> Subject: Re: Manifold Misinformation >> >> >Dell, you can continue to entertain us with bullshit, but I just can not >> >participate today. Don't take it personally. You guys fool nobody for >> >very long. Let me know next time you or Lamar want to badmouth any of my >> >friends, I will be glad to pull the gear scorecard and beat you both >> >over the head with it for months if necesary to get it through your dumb >> >red neck heads to learn when to shut the fuck up. And, Dell, I love >> >doing it. Just not today, I have to go to LA today and and have lot to >> >do to get ready. >> > >> >Dell Motes wrote: >> >> >> >> Hello George, long time no hear ;-) >> >> (It has been at least a couple hours). >> >> Why wouldn't you have time to mess with me today ?? >> >> What makes today any different than any other day ?? >> >> I think I'll go diving then. >> >> Checklist; >> >> Lets see, first, find a seat and shut up................................ >> >> Second, go to the dumpster and get my gear. You know, the one with the >> dual >> >> o-ring seal on the manifold ................................... >> >> Third, don't wait for techdiver response, George can't play today, he >> >> doesn't have time. >> >> That covers it, I 'm outta here !!!! >> >> >> >> Dell Motes >> >> Dive Rite >> >> 117 W.Washington St. >> >> Lake City, Florida 32055 >> >> www.dive-rite.com >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*> >> >> To: Dell Motes <dell@di*.co*> >> >> Cc: techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com> >> >> Date: Thursday, May 04, 2000 6:09 AM >> >> Subject: Re: Manifold Misinformation >> >> >> >> >Dell, did you figure this out AFTER you sold the wrong center section >> >> >and bullshitted everyone about it? Funny, I have six of the right ones >> >> >and have always had the right ones other than when I made the mistake of >> >> >buying one from you guys. It is over at Brownies on the "Wall of Shame" >> >> >if you want to go see it. >> >> > >> >> >You coming on here with "information" about dive gear is like Edsel >> >> >coming back from the grave and talking about cars. >> >> > >> >> >You do not own a piece of dive gear that does not belong in a dumpster >> >> >someplace. Take seat and shut up - I do not have time to mess with you >> >> >today. >> >> > >> >> >Dell Motes wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> A dial caliper is a very simple and safe way to confirm the maximum >> >> spacing >> >> >> on any double barrel o-ring style manifold.This one will be done on >> one >> >> not >> >> >> installed ;-) >> >> >> Hell, you can even use a toothpick and put pencil marks on it and >> still >> >> get >> >> >> the info you need. >> >> >> Measure the depth to the bevel which starts the sealing surface in the >> K >> >> >> valve. This will be where the threads stop and the smooth surface >> starts. >> >> >> Now match that measurement on the crossbar from the inner >> >> >> o-ring to the locknut. Just turn the locknut inward on the crossbar >> until >> >> >> you match the distance and stop. Now look at the measurement from the >> nut >> >> to >> >> >> the main body of the crossbar itself. >> >> >> >> >> >> If you want a more difficult, but highly convincing method with >> special >> >> >> effects, here is what you do. >> >> >> >> >> >> Remove the outboard o-ring on the crossbar, (left or right K, it >> doesn't >> >> >> matter). >> >> >> Assemble the manifold and tanks, but don't put the bands on. >> >> >> Now see how close you have to bring the tanks together before they >> will >> >> take >> >> >> on gas. >> >> >> This doesn't even take into account high pressure or impact, which >> >> actually >> >> >> rotates the crossbar rearward, separating the valves even more. >> >> >> The measurement you get on either test will determine the maximum >> spacing >> >> >> for the manifold in question in order to maintain a double o-ring >> seal. >> >> >> Dell Motes >> >> >> Dive Rite >> >> >> 117 W.Washington St. >> >> >> Lake City, Florida 32055 >> >> >> www.dive-rite.com >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to >> `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> >> >> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to >> `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > > > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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