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Paul, ask Jablonski. I am getting involved but I only know one area - my type of diving, and in that, there will be no compromises what so ever. I seriously doubt that JJ will ever compromise either in anything - like me, he does not have to. Also, you have to look at the alternative agencies and understand one thing - the guys who run them do not do the diving that we do. Paul Wright wrote: > > George, Do you feel that it is a factor of size, a factor of management or a > combination of both that GUE has so far got an apparently unblemished record > with regard to maintaining standards and effective policing. > > I would imagine that as long as it remains a tiny organisation under the > direct control of JJ et al than the standards will remain high. Obviously JJ > wants it to retain an unblemished record, after all, do any of us want to > see any inadequate training taking place? I don't think anyone who is mature > in mind as well as body would wish to see poor standards perpetuated. > However, the scheme has to be to expand GUE if the message that it wishes to > spread and the standards it wishes to promote are to be accepted in the face > of larger organisations. > > How large can it become before standards are compromised in order to sell > courses? > > I suppose the point I am making is that once the GUE code of training gets > out into a wider sphere of dive schools then there will inevitably be owners > and instructors who break standards to save a few pennies. > > In the UK PADI etc are trying, with mixed success, to enforce basic > standards such as independent air sources for instructors but can only > enforce these standards if WE, the divers who witness shite standards, > report them to the certifying authority. > > I don't know what happens in the US but in the UK if no action is taken by > the certifying/controlling authority then the Health & Safety Executive can > become involved, at which point things can get quite entertaining. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*> > To: Joel Silverstein <joelsilverstein@wo*.at*.ne*> > Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 1:59 AM > Subject: Re: retraction > > > Joel I can name you some from the other agencies whom a court of law has > > effectively said are "bad" - would you like that instead of a general > > retraction? You were correct about bad ones, it is just true the GUE has > > not managed to add any bad ones yet, and hopefully never will. > > > > Joel Silverstein wrote: > > > > > > A few days ago I made a post regarding the qualities of instructors of > all > > > levels from all agencies across the board. Some have taken issue with > the > > > inclusion of GUE to the list. Although no specific mention to any > > > particular person or any agency as indicated, nor was there a specific > > > situation noted, suffice to say that after a long conversation with JJ > this > > > morning I retract the inclusion of GUE to that list. > > > > > > GUE is small and growing and the direct controls they have in place seem > to > > > be satisfactory to their founders. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Joel Silverstein > > > > > > PS - Considering that no particular situation was cited for that post. I > > > will retract the statement regarding all the agencies mentioned (PADI, > > > IANTD, TDI, GUE, ANDI, NAUI, PSA, BSAC, etc.) Agencies don't train > divers, > > > people do. > > > > > > -- > > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > > -- > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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