Bob, You should have asked me before you assumed that I had not made a formal complaint. I only wish that I still had the emails that NAUI sent me. My complaint went along the following lines- after all the poor quality instruction, before the instroketor would give me my extended range or Trimix c-card, I had to complete the gas mixer/blender exams. Since this was never my understanding when I signed up and given the lightweight nature of the blender courses, I was understandably annoyed. The funniest part of all was that the exams were photocopied TDI exams! I contacted NAUI South Africa by telephone, essentially to be told that 1) the instructor could basically do what he wanted 2) it would take months for anything to happen. I also had an extended email conversation with somebody at NAUI tec. I can assure you that it in no way promised as swift action as the very "customer friendly" email from NAUI tec that was addressed to me and posted to this list but not to my email address. To sum it up, I had the distinct feeling that NAUI was closing ranks and firmly protecting the instructor. So what did I do ? Joined Tech Diver, found a DIR diver in South Africa and started over again. Cheers, Simon n a message dated 4/30/00 6:50:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bdi@bd*.co*.au* writes: > Bob, you got any evidence to support this outrageous > piece of blind optimism or are you just bullshitting and > hoping it's true? Billy, It's not particularly blind optimism. Over the years I have seen various agencies take actions when violations occur. I have known instructors that were accused, sometimes rightfully, other times wrongfully, and have seen the resulting process in action. A very easy piece of evidence to offer might be PADI's quarterly publication of quality assurance actions including the names of any expelled members. As a more pertinent example, I'm attaching a CC I recieved from NAUI Tech Ops concerning the commentary that appeared on this list. In all fairness, it's worth noting that my understanding is that to date, "Simon" has not bothered to file a formal complaint concerning this matter. Does every agency adamently police their membership and pursue complaints? I don't have a clue, there are too many organizations to have personal knowledge of everyone. Do politics, economics and friendships sometimes hinder the process? Sure, I'm not nearly enough of an optimist to believe every reported violation is dealt with in a "squeaky clean" manner. After all, anytime humans are involved factors such as emotion and greed will play a role from time to time. I'm also not so niave as believe that every bad instructor gets caught. To be fair the agency dealing with the problem cannot simply act upon the accusation of one person. The accused needs an opportunity to respond and other evidence needs to be gathered. I have no doubt that some get away with things due to the apathy of their students (or lack of realization that they were "had") and a hesitation on the part of their peers to "snitch." Again, I'd like to emphasize that to date, the individual that suggested wrong doing in the matter addressed below has failed to follow through with a formal complaint to NAUI HQ. Bob Decker SportDiverHQ.com *****CC from NAUI Tech****** Simon, I have been forwarded your e-mail that went out to a chat line. I am most concerned about you account of a NAUI Technical Instructor and a NAUI Technical Training Center in South Africa. If you would be so kind as to put your account of this incident (bogus training) in a email message to me incuding the name of the facility and name of the instructor and the date that this took place, I will take care of it from here. Please indicate the agency exam that you were given as well as the what agency or xeroxed training materials were provided to you as well as the agency c-card issued to you. I will assure you that actions from this department are swift and irrevocable. We only have one center in South Africa and if what you have described is correct....we will have none very shortly after receipt of your formal complaint. Moreover any NAUI technical instructor that provides training as you described will have his/her technical authorization revoked immediatly. The NAUI Mixed Gas Blender and Oxygen Technician course is given in an academic powerpoint presentation that includes nitrox and trimix blending as well as techniques for oxygen servicing. This usually takes some 6 to 8 hours. You should have been provided a NAUI Mixed Gas Blender and Oxygen Service Technician manual. You should have had appoximately 4 hours of bench time to include mixing trimix, nitrox, oxygen cleaning cylinders, valves, and regulators as well as documentation of the oxygen cleaning process. NAUI technical Operations views a blender as just that " a mixed gas blender" . We do not differentiate between nitrox, trimix, or heliox for the sake of another course. If this is not what you received, then you may take this course at this facility free of charge anytime you like. Thank you in advance to your attention to this matter. Best Regards Timothy R. O'Leary Director NAUI Technical Operations -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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