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At 05:58 1/05/00 , RDecker388@ao*.co* wrote: > >Return-path: <RDecker388@ao*.co*> >From: RDecker388@ao*.co* >Full-name: RDecker388 >Message-ID: <84.49b4e7b.263de9f1@ao*.co*> >Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 15:56:33 EDT >Subject: Re: Instroketors WAS Re: Q about 02 fill whip experience >To: bdi@bd*.co*.au* >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 106 > >In a message dated 4/30/00 6:50:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bdi@bd*.co*.au* >writes: > > > Bob, you got any evidence to support this outrageous > > piece of blind optimism or are you just bullshitting and > > hoping it's true? > >Billy, > > It's not particularly blind optimism. Over the years I have seen >various agencies take actions when violations occur. That may be true. I have seen two agencies take action so I guess that counts as 'various agencies' as well. But what I believe is unsustainable about your original statement " All agencies set standards and do their best to police them." are the words 'All' and 'do their best'. rgrds billyw > I have known >instructors that were accused, sometimes rightfully, other times wrongfully, >and have seen the resulting process in action. A very easy piece of evidence >to offer might be PADI's quarterly publication of quality assurance actions >including the names of any expelled members. > > As a more pertinent example, I'm attaching a CC I recieved from NAUI >Tech Ops concerning the commentary that appeared on this list. In all >fairness, it's worth noting that my understanding is that to date, "Simon" >has not bothered to file a formal complaint concerning this matter. > > Does every agency adamently police their membership and pursue >complaints? I don't have a clue, there are too many organizations to have >personal knowledge of everyone. Do politics, economics and friendships >sometimes hinder the process? Sure, I'm not nearly enough of an optimist to >believe every reported violation is dealt with in a "squeaky clean" manner. >After all, anytime humans are involved factors such as emotion and greed will >play a role from time to time. > > I'm also not so niave as believe that every bad instructor gets >caught. To be fair the agency dealing with the problem cannot simply act >upon the accusation of one person. The accused needs an opportunity to >respond and other evidence needs to be gathered. I have no doubt that some >get away with things due to the apathy of their students (or lack of >realization that they were "had") and a hesitation on the part of their peers >to "snitch." > > Again, I'd like to emphasize that to date, the individual that >suggested wrong doing in the matter addressed below has failed to follow >through with a formal complaint to NAUI HQ. > >Bob Decker >SportDiverHQ.com > >*****CC from NAUI Tech****** > >Simon, >I have been forwarded your e-mail that went out to a chat line. I am most >concerned about you account of a NAUI Technical Instructor and a NAUI >Technical Training Center in South Africa. If you would be so kind as to put >your account of this incident (bogus training) in a email message to me >incuding the name of the facility and name of the instructor and the date >that this took place, I will take care of it from here. Please indicate the >agency exam that you were given as well as the what agency or xeroxed >training materials were provided to you as well as the agency c-card issued >to you. >I will assure you that actions from this department are swift and >irrevocable. We only have one center in South Africa and if what you have >described is correct....we will have none very shortly after receipt of your >formal complaint. Moreover any NAUI technical instructor that provides >training as you described will have his/her technical authorization revoked >immediatly. > >The NAUI Mixed Gas Blender and Oxygen Technician course is given in an >academic powerpoint presentation that includes nitrox and trimix blending as >well as techniques for oxygen servicing. This usually takes some 6 to 8 >hours. You should have been provided a NAUI Mixed Gas Blender and Oxygen >Service Technician manual. You should have had appoximately 4 hours of bench >time to include mixing trimix, nitrox, oxygen cleaning cylinders, valves, and >regulators as well as documentation of the oxygen cleaning process. NAUI >technical Operations views a blender as just that " a mixed gas blender" . We >do not differentiate between nitrox, trimix, or heliox for the sake of >another course. >If this is not what you received, then you may take this course at this >facility free of charge anytime you like. > >Thank you in advance to your attention to this matter. > >Best Regards >Timothy R. O'Leary >Director >NAUI Technical Operations -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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