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Dell, this is bullshit . I have five Sea Elites and two old Dive Rites =
which you hoaky red necks sent to me in 200 bar because you "claimed" =
some assinine "liability" for putting 300 bar manifolds on a 200 bar =
tank. My suspicion is that you got cut off and could not get the right =
stuff or were ignorant of the true specs of the device, or both . Did =
you pay your bill to the supplier?
=20
You also sent me the wrong center section and then were naive enough to =
think I am a moron ( good guess considering I was dumb enough to buy =
them form you in the first place) and told me that "there is only one =
center section" . Seems you have now found out otherwise years later - =
good progress, Dell - keep staying on the cutting edge, buddy. Or is =
this just deception? Both, in my opinon, since I went and got the right =
center section and put the things together on some aluminum 80's.
=20
On my 104's and 121's I have my Sea Elites and they all have and HAVE =
ALWAYS HAD the correct center section that allows me to use the CORRECT =
bands , the Highland Mill Works bands. I recall you drooling goobers =
pushing the tanks close together with that tiny set of Dive Rite bands =
and having them up against the bolt, and then getting on here like =
either a liar or a moron and telling everyone that the maniflods would =
only capture "one of the two o-rings" - Farm Animality as per the usual. =
=20
Dell, I am really sick of misinformation and bullshit, and Dive Rite is =
a MAJOR source of BOTH in my opinion. You are dead wrong here , and =
whether it is ignorance or outright deception, I do not care, it needs =
to stop. This is again a simple subject and you are screwing it up. =20
=20
Sea Elite has always been the way to go, and people want to hear from =
guys like me who know and have no vested interest.=20
=20
My advice to everyone is to go to Divers Supply or Extreme Exposure for =
this manifold: DS has always had it, and now EE has it. The difference =
betwen EE and a YOU is that Jablonski has always SENT his customers to =
DS to get the manifold but now does not have to since he has it. Why =
should anyone fool wih you and your constant baloney , excuses, and =
quick step shufle when you should have done the same thing?=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Dell Motes <dell@di*.co*>
To: techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Friday, April 28, 2000 6:42 PM
Subject: Manifold misinformation
=20
=20
The old Dive Rite and Sea Elite manifolds were one in the same, made =
in Italy and distributed to this country by Submarex. They simply had =
different finishes to distinguish between the two.These were available =
in 3/4 neck, 5/8 neck, 200 bar or 300 bar and any combination there of.
=20
The Thermo manifold is virtually identical in conceptual design, =
except there is two different forgings for the right and left "K". This =
allows them to have a true 8.5 center to center spacing for all new 8 =
inch dia. cylinders available today. These cylinders are actually =
greater than 8 inch dia. This requires true 8.5 spacing to allow for the =
5/16 bolt between the tanks. The old Dive Rite and Sea Elite did not =
allow for this (on newer cylinders) unless you used a 1/4 inch bolt =
between the tanks. Regardless of which tanks they are on, if you have =
more than 1/8 inch between the lock nut and body forging of the crossbar =
on one of these older manifolds, then you have most likely compromised =
the seal of the inside o-ring on the crossbar. This means your down to =
one barrel seal, not two.=20
The Thermo also uses a crush gasket on the bonnet nut instead of an =
o-ring. The Thermo is available through Seagate cylinders, which Dive =
Rite sourced them from. These should also be available in 300 bar before =
too long, or may be already.
=20
The new Sea-Elite is now a duplicate of the original Italian product =
but made in Asia. In past discussions with them, I assume they have =
addressed the 8.5 spacing issue.=20
=20
The new Dive Rite is still made in Italy, from the original =
forgings, with a longer crossbar to address the 8.5 spacing issue. These =
can easily be distinguished from the others because "Dive Rite" is =
embossed in the valve body and the number "100" is embossed in the =
crossbar body. These are available in 3/4 neck, 5/8 neck, 200 bar or 300 =
bar, and any combination there of.=20
=20
Dell Motes
Dive Rite
117 W.Washington St.
Lake City, Florida 32055 =20
www.dive-rite.com
=20
=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dell, this is bullshit . I have five Sea Elites and =
two old=20
Dive Rites which you hoaky red necks sent to me in 200 bar because you=20
"claimed" some assinine "liability" for putting 300 =
bar=20
manifolds on a 200 bar tank. My suspicion is that you got cut off and =
could not=20
get the right stuff or were ignorant of the true specs of the device, or =
both .=20
Did you pay your bill to the supplier?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> You also sent me the wrong center section and =
then were=20
naive enough to think I am a moron ( good guess considering I was dumb =
enough to=20
buy them form you in the first place) and told me that =
"there=20
is only one center section" . Seems you have now found out =
otherwise years=20
later - good progress, Dell - keep staying on the cutting edge, buddy. =
Or is=20
this just deception? Both, in my opinon, since I went and got the right =
center=20
section and put the things together on some aluminum 80's.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>On my 104's and 121's I have my Sea Elites and they =
all have=20
and HAVE ALWAYS HAD the correct center section that allows me to use the =
CORRECT=20
bands , the Highland Mill Works bands. I recall you drooling goobers =
pushing the=20
tanks close together with that tiny set of Dive Rite bands and having =
them up=20
against the bolt, and then getting on here like either a liar or a moron =
and=20
telling everyone that the maniflods would only capture "one of the =
two=20
o-rings" - Farm Animality as per the usual. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dell, I am really sick of misinformation and =
bullshit,=20
and Dive Rite is a MAJOR source of BOTH in my opinion. You are dead =
wrong here ,=20
and whether it is ignorance or outright deception, I do not care, it =
needs to=20
stop. This is again a simple subject and you are screwing it =
up. =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Sea Elite has always been the way to go, and people =
want to=20
hear from guys like me who know and have no vested interest. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>My advice to everyone is to go to Divers Supply or =
Extreme=20
Exposure for this manifold: DS has always had it, and now EE has it. The =
difference betwen EE and a YOU is that Jablonski has always SENT =
his=20
customers to DS to get the manifold but now does not have to since he =
has it.=20
Why should anyone fool wih you and your constant baloney , excuses, and =
quick=20
step shufle when you should have done the same thing? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original =
Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20
</B>Dell Motes <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:dell@di*.co*">dell@dive-rite.com</A>><BR><B>To:=20
</B>techdiver <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A>><BR>=
<B>Date:=20
</B>Friday, April 28, 2000 6:42 PM<BR><B>Subject:
</B>Manifold=20
misinformation<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>The old Dive Rite and Sea Elite =
manifolds=20
were one in the same, made in Italy and distributed to this country =
by=20
Submarex. They simply had different finishes to distinguish between =
the=20
two.These were available in 3/4 neck, 5/8 neck, 200 bar or 300 bar =
and any=20
combination there of.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT
color=3D#000000=20
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>The Thermo manifold is virtually =
identical=20
in conceptual design, except there is two different forgings for the =
right=20
and left "K". This allows them to have a true 8.5 center =
to center=20
spacing for all new 8 inch dia. cylinders available today. These =
cylinders=20
are actually greater than 8 inch dia. This requires true 8.5 spacing =
to=20
allow for the 5/16 bolt between the tanks. The old Dive Rite and Sea =
Elite=20
did not allow for this (on newer cylinders) unless you used a 1/4 =
inch bolt=20
between the tanks. Regardless of which tanks they are on, if you =
have more=20
than 1/8 inch between the lock nut and body forging of the crossbar =
on one=20
of these older manifolds, then you have most likely compromised the =
seal of=20
the inside o-ring on the crossbar. This means your down to one =
barrel seal,=20
not two. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2> The Thermo also uses a =
crush gasket on=20
the bonnet nut instead of an o-ring. The Thermo is available through =
Seagate=20
cylinders, which Dive Rite sourced them from. These should also be =
available=20
in 300 bar before too long, or may be already.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>The new Sea-Elite is now a duplicate of the =
original=20
Italian product but made in Asia. In past discussions with them, I =
assume=20
they have addressed the 8.5 spacing issue. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>The new Dive Rite is still made in Italy, from =
the=20
original forgings, with a longer crossbar to address the 8.5 spacing =
issue.=20
These can easily be distinguished from the others because =
</FONT><FONT=20
size=3D2>"Dive Rite" is embossed in the valve body and the =
number=20
"100" is embossed </FONT><FONT size=3D2>in the crossbar =
body. These=20
are available in 3/4 neck, 5/8 neck, 200 bar or 300 bar, and any =
combination=20
there of. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dell Motes<BR>Dive Rite<BR>117 W.Washington
=
St.<BR>Lake=20
City, Florida 32055 <BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.dive-rite.com">www.dive-rite.com</A><BR></FONT></
DIV>
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