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From: "Dell Motes" <dell@di*.co*>
To: <trey@ne*.co*>
Cc: "techdiver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Manifold misinformation
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 15:34:57 -0400
George,
What does any of that have to do with you posting in-correct info on
manifolds ?
Then, true to form, you make personal attacks when confronted with the
facts.
Even your personal attacks are wrong.
"fat"? Far from it.
"bumd"? The irony of that one is killing me with laughter, but I assume you
meant "dumb". I don't think I need to cover that one.
And I know that anybody residing anywhere but Ft. Lauderdale is considered a
"redneck".
George, contrary to what you may think, all anyone has to do is let you talk
(or type) and they get all the fuel they need.
So, what exactly is it I'm trying to win by putting my "track record"
against yours ?
I'm pretty "bumd", so type slow so I can understand.
Bye,
Dell


-----Original Message-----
From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
To: Dell Motes <dell@di*.co*>
Cc: techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Monday, May 01, 2000 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: Manifold misinformation


>"Einstein" ? Dell, not myself  being a fat bumd red neck ignoramus who
>works for "Dive Rite" or "Lamar Tec" or whatever that is up there where
>such "genius" pieces of dive intelligence as square lihgts, transpacs,
>two part hid lights, bungeed wings, "super wings", bullshit nitrox
>computers and that ridiculous "Massive Leaking Sytem" piece of red neck
>tomfoolery you idiots call a light (the one that has the special wrench
>to take the lid off ), I guess I do not need to be offended that you
>"don't care what I say". No shit.
>
>You keep trying to decieve them and I'll kee trying to prevent you from
>doing so. Your track record up aginst mine, any time, asshole. Let's see
>who wins.
>
>Dell Motes wrote:
>>
>> George,
>> What in the world makes you think I care about what you say ?
>> What I posted is 100 % correct.
>> If you don't like being caught posting bullshit, then don't post.
>> We all know THAT won't happen, but who cares ?
>> Running down to your local shop and taking one apart is what you call
>> "Research".
>> How about going out and buying a set of calipers, Einstein.
>> LOL, sweetness.
>>
>> Dell Motes
>> Dive Rite
>> 117 W.Washington St.
>> Lake City, Florida 32055
>> www.dive-rite.com
>>
>>
>>
>>      -----Original Message-----
>>      From: Trey <pina23@ne*.ne*>
>>      To: Dell Motes <dell@di*.co*>; techdiver
>>      <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>>      Date: Sunday, April 30, 2000 8:49 AM
>>      Subject: Re: Manifold misinformation
>>
>>      Dell, this is bullshit . I have five Sea Elites and two old
>>      Dive Rites which you hoaky red necks sent to me in 200 bar
>>      because you "claimed" some assinine "liability" for putting
>>      300 bar manifolds on a 200 bar tank. My suspicion is that
>>      you got cut off and could not get the right stuff or were
>>      ignorant of the true specs of the device, or both . Did you
>>      pay your bill to the supplier?
>>
>>       You also sent me the wrong center section and then were
>>      naive enough to think I am a moron ( good guess considering
>>      I was dumb enough to buy them form you in the first place)
>>      and told me  that "there is only one center section" . Seems
>>      you have now found out otherwise years later - good
>>      progress, Dell - keep staying on the cutting edge, buddy. Or
>>      is this just deception? Both, in my opinon, since I went and
>>      got the right center section and put the things together on
>>      some aluminum 80's.
>>
>>      On my 104's and 121's I have my Sea Elites and they all have
>>      and HAVE ALWAYS HAD the correct center section that allows
>>      me to use the CORRECT bands , the Highland Mill Works bands.
>>      I recall you drooling goobers pushing the tanks close
>>      together with that tiny set of Dive Rite bands and having
>>      them up against the bolt, and then getting on here like
>>      either a liar or a moron and telling everyone that the
>>      maniflods would only capture "one of the two o-rings" - Farm
>>      Animality as per the usual.
>>
>>      Dell,  I am really sick of misinformation and bullshit, and
>>      Dive Rite is a MAJOR source of BOTH in my opinion. You are
>>      dead wrong here , and whether it is ignorance or outright
>>      deception, I do not care, it needs to stop. This is again a
>>      simple subject and you are screwing it up.
>>
>>      Sea Elite has always been the way to go, and people want to
>>      hear from guys like me who know and have no vested interest.
>>
>>      My advice to everyone is to go to Divers Supply or Extreme
>>      Exposure for this manifold: DS has always had it, and now EE
>>      has it. The difference betwen EE and a YOU is that
>>      Jablonski has always SENT his customers to DS to get the
>>      manifold but now does not have to since he has it. Why
>>      should anyone fool wih you and your constant baloney ,
>>      excuses, and quick step shufle when you should have done the
>>      same thing?
>>
>>
>>           -----Original Message-----
>>           From: Dell Motes <dell@di*.co*>
>>           To: techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>>           Date: Friday, April 28, 2000 6:42 PM
>>           Subject: Manifold misinformation
>>
>>           The old Dive Rite and Sea Elite manifolds were one
>>           in the same, made in Italy and distributed to this
>>           country by Submarex. They simply had different
>>           finishes to distinguish between the two.These were
>>           available in 3/4 neck, 5/8 neck, 200 bar or 300
>>           bar and any combination there of.
>>
>>           The Thermo manifold is virtually identical in
>>           conceptual design, except there is two different
>>           forgings for the right and left "K". This allows
>>           them to have a true 8.5 center to center spacing
>>           for all new 8 inch dia. cylinders available today.
>>           These cylinders are actually greater than 8 inch
>>           dia. This requires true 8.5 spacing to allow for
>>           the 5/16 bolt between the tanks. The old Dive Rite
>>           and Sea Elite did not allow for this (on newer
>>           cylinders) unless you used a 1/4 inch bolt between
>>           the tanks. Regardless of which tanks they are on,
>>           if you have more than 1/8 inch between the lock
>>           nut and body forging of the crossbar on one of
>>           these older manifolds, then you have most likely
>>           compromised the seal of the inside o-ring on the
>>           crossbar. This means your down to one barrel seal,
>>           not two.
>>            The Thermo also uses a crush gasket on the bonnet
>>           nut instead of an o-ring. The Thermo is available
>>           through Seagate cylinders, which Dive Rite sourced
>>           them from. These should also be available in 300
>>           bar before too long, or may be already.
>>
>>           The new Sea-Elite is now a duplicate of the
>>           original Italian product but made in Asia. In past
>>           discussions with them, I assume they have
>>           addressed the 8.5 spacing issue.
>>
>>           The new Dive Rite is still made in Italy, from the
>>           original forgings, with a longer crossbar to
>>           address the 8.5 spacing issue. These can easily be
>>           distinguished from the others because "Dive Rite"
>>           is embossed in the valve body and the number "100"
>>           is embossed in the crossbar body. These are
>>           available in 3/4 neck, 5/8 neck, 200 bar or 300
>>           bar, and any combination there of.
>>
>>           Dell Motes
>>           Dive Rite
>>           117 W.Washington St.
>>           Lake City, Florida 32055
>>           www.dive-rite.com
>>
>
>

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