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George,
What in the world makes you think I care about what you say ?
What I posted is 100 % correct.
If you don't like being caught posting bullshit, then don't post.
We all know THAT won't happen, but who cares ?=20
Running down to your local shop and taking one apart is what you call=20
"Research".
How about going out and buying a set of calipers, Einstein.
LOL, sweetness.
Dell Motes
Dive Rite
117 W.Washington St.
Lake City, Florida 32055 =20
www.dive-rite.com
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Trey <pina23@ne*.ne*>
To: Dell Motes <dell@di*.co*>; techdiver =
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Sunday, April 30, 2000 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: Manifold misinformation
=20
=20
Dell, this is bullshit . I have five Sea Elites and two old Dive =
Rites which you hoaky red necks sent to me in 200 bar because you =
"claimed" some assinine "liability" for putting 300 bar manifolds on a =
200 bar tank. My suspicion is that you got cut off and could not get the =
right stuff or were ignorant of the true specs of the device, or both . =
Did you pay your bill to the supplier?
=20
You also sent me the wrong center section and then were naive =
enough to think I am a moron ( good guess considering I was dumb enough =
to buy them form you in the first place) and told me that "there is =
only one center section" . Seems you have now found out otherwise years =
later - good progress, Dell - keep staying on the cutting edge, buddy. =
Or is this just deception? Both, in my opinon, since I went and got the =
right center section and put the things together on some aluminum 80's.
=20
On my 104's and 121's I have my Sea Elites and they all have and =
HAVE ALWAYS HAD the correct center section that allows me to use the =
CORRECT bands , the Highland Mill Works bands. I recall you drooling =
goobers pushing the tanks close together with that tiny set of Dive Rite =
bands and having them up against the bolt, and then getting on here like =
either a liar or a moron and telling everyone that the maniflods would =
only capture "one of the two o-rings" - Farm Animality as per the usual. =
=20
Dell, I am really sick of misinformation and bullshit, and Dive =
Rite is a MAJOR source of BOTH in my opinion. You are dead wrong here , =
and whether it is ignorance or outright deception, I do not care, it =
needs to stop. This is again a simple subject and you are screwing it =
up. =20
=20
Sea Elite has always been the way to go, and people want to hear =
from guys like me who know and have no vested interest.=20
=20
My advice to everyone is to go to Divers Supply or Extreme Exposure =
for this manifold: DS has always had it, and now EE has it. The =
difference betwen EE and a YOU is that Jablonski has always SENT his =
customers to DS to get the manifold but now does not have to since he =
has it. Why should anyone fool wih you and your constant baloney , =
excuses, and quick step shufle when you should have done the same thing? =
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Dell Motes <dell@di*.co*>
To: techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Friday, April 28, 2000 6:42 PM
Subject: Manifold misinformation
=20
=20
The old Dive Rite and Sea Elite manifolds were one in the same, =
made in Italy and distributed to this country by Submarex. They simply =
had different finishes to distinguish between the two.These were =
available in 3/4 neck, 5/8 neck, 200 bar or 300 bar and any combination =
there of.
=20
The Thermo manifold is virtually identical in conceptual design, =
except there is two different forgings for the right and left "K". This =
allows them to have a true 8.5 center to center spacing for all new 8 =
inch dia. cylinders available today. These cylinders are actually =
greater than 8 inch dia. This requires true 8.5 spacing to allow for the =
5/16 bolt between the tanks. The old Dive Rite and Sea Elite did not =
allow for this (on newer cylinders) unless you used a 1/4 inch bolt =
between the tanks. Regardless of which tanks they are on, if you have =
more than 1/8 inch between the lock nut and body forging of the crossbar =
on one of these older manifolds, then you have most likely compromised =
the seal of the inside o-ring on the crossbar. This means your down to =
one barrel seal, not two.=20
The Thermo also uses a crush gasket on the bonnet nut instead =
of an o-ring. The Thermo is available through Seagate cylinders, which =
Dive Rite sourced them from. These should also be available in 300 bar =
before too long, or may be already.
=20
The new Sea-Elite is now a duplicate of the original Italian =
product but made in Asia. In past discussions with them, I assume they =
have addressed the 8.5 spacing issue.=20
=20
The new Dive Rite is still made in Italy, from the original =
forgings, with a longer crossbar to address the 8.5 spacing issue. These =
can easily be distinguished from the others because "Dive Rite" is =
embossed in the valve body and the number "100" is embossed in the =
crossbar body. These are available in 3/4 neck, 5/8 neck, 200 bar or 300 =
bar, and any combination there of.=20
=20
Dell Motes
Dive Rite
117 W.Washington St.
Lake City, Florida 32055 =20
www.dive-rite.com
=20
=20
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>George,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2>What in
the =
world makes you=20
think I care about what you say ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>What I posted is 100 % correct.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>If you don't like being caught posting bullshit, =
then don't=20
post.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>We all know THAT won't happen, but who cares ? =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Running down to your local shop and taking one apart =
is what=20
you call </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><FONT color=3D#000000=20
size=3D2>"Research".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2>How about
=
going out and=20
buying a set of calipers, Einstein.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>LOL, sweetness.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dell Motes<BR>Dive Rite<BR>117 W.Washington =
St.<BR>Lake City,=20
Florida 32055 <BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.dive-rite.com">www.dive-rite.com</A><BR> </FONT
><=
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<DIV> </DIV>
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style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: =
5px">
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original =
Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20
</B>Trey <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:pina23@ne*.ne*">pina23@netzero.net</A>><BR><B>To:=20
</B>Dell Motes <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:dell@di*.co*">dell@dive-rite.com</A>>; =
techdiver=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A>><BR>=
<B>Date:=20
</B>Sunday, April 30, 2000 8:49 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re:
Manifold=20
misinformation<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dell, this is bullshit . I have five Sea Elites =
and two=20
old Dive Rites which you hoaky red necks sent to me in 200 bar =
because you=20
"claimed" some assinine "liability" for putting =
300 bar=20
manifolds on a 200 bar tank. My suspicion is that you got cut off =
and could=20
not get the right stuff or were ignorant of the true specs of the =
device, or=20
both . Did you pay your bill to the supplier?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> You also sent me the wrong center section =
and then=20
were naive enough to think I am a moron ( good guess considering I =
was dumb=20
enough to buy them form you in the first place) and told =
me that=20
"there is only one center section" . Seems you have now =
found out=20
otherwise years later - good progress, Dell - keep staying on the =
cutting=20
edge, buddy. Or is this just deception? Both, in my opinon, since I =
went and=20
got the right center section and put the things together on some =
aluminum=20
80's.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><FONT
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>On my 104's and 121's I have my Sea Elites and =
they all=20
have and HAVE ALWAYS HAD the correct center section that allows me =
to use=20
the CORRECT bands , the Highland Mill Works bands. I recall you =
drooling=20
goobers pushing the tanks close together with that tiny set of Dive =
Rite=20
bands and having them up against the bolt, and then getting on here =
like=20
either a liar or a moron and telling everyone that the maniflods =
would only=20
capture "one of the two o-rings" - Farm Animality as per =
the=20
usual. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dell, I am really sick of misinformation =
and=20
bullshit, and Dive Rite is a MAJOR source of BOTH in my opinion. You =
are=20
dead wrong here , and whether it is ignorance or outright deception, =
I do=20
not care, it needs to stop. This is again a simple subject and you =
are=20
screwing it up. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Sea Elite has always been the way to go, and =
people want=20
to hear from guys like me who know and have no vested interest.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>My advice to everyone is to go to Divers Supply =
or Extreme=20
Exposure for this manifold: DS has always had it, and now EE has it. =
The=20
difference betwen EE and a YOU is that Jablonski has always =
SENT his=20
customers to DS to get the manifold but now does not have to since =
he has=20
it. Why should anyone fool wih you and your constant baloney , =
excuses, and=20
quick step shufle when you should have done the same thing? =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original=20
Message-----</B><BR><B>From: </B>Dell Motes <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:dell@di*.co*">dell@dive-rite.com</A>><BR><B>To:=20
</B>techdiver <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A>><BR>=
<B>Date:=20
</B>Friday, April 28, 2000 6:42 PM<BR><B>Subject:
</B>Manifold=20
misinformation<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>The old Dive Rite and Sea =
Elite=20
manifolds were one in the same, made in Italy and distributed to =
this=20
country by Submarex. They simply had different finishes to =
distinguish=20
between the two.These were available in 3/4 neck, 5/8 neck, 200 =
bar or=20
300 bar and any combination there of.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT
color=3D#000000 =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>The Thermo manifold is =
virtually=20
identical in conceptual design, except there is two different =
forgings=20
for the right and left "K". This allows them to have a =
true=20
8.5 center to center spacing for all new 8 inch dia. cylinders =
available=20
today. These cylinders are actually greater than 8 inch dia. =
This=20
requires true 8.5 spacing to allow for the 5/16 bolt between the =
tanks.=20
The old Dive Rite and Sea Elite did not allow for this (on newer =
cylinders) unless you used a 1/4 inch bolt between the tanks. =
Regardless=20
of which tanks they are on, if you have more than 1/8 inch =
between the=20
lock nut and body forging of the crossbar on one of these older=20
manifolds, then you have most likely compromised the seal of the =
inside=20
o-ring on the crossbar. This means your down to one barrel seal, =
not=20
two. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2> The Thermo also uses a =
crush=20
gasket on the bonnet nut instead of an o-ring. The Thermo is =
available=20
through Seagate cylinders, which Dive Rite sourced them from. =
These=20
should also be available in 300 bar before too long, or may be=20
already.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>The new Sea-Elite is now a duplicate of the =
original=20
Italian product but made in Asia. In past discussions with them, =
I=20
assume they have addressed the 8.5 spacing issue. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>The new Dive Rite is still made in Italy, =
from the=20
original forgings, with a longer crossbar to address the 8.5 =
spacing=20
issue. These can easily be distinguished from the others because =
</FONT><FONT size=3D2>"Dive Rite" is embossed in the =
valve body=20
and the number "100" is embossed </FONT><FONT =
size=3D2>in the=20
crossbar body. These are available in 3/4 neck, 5/8 neck, 200 =
bar or 300=20
bar, and any combination there of. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dell Motes<BR>Dive Rite<BR>117
W.Washington=20
St.<BR>Lake City, Florida 32055 <BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.dive-rite.com">www.dive-rite.com</A><BR></FONT></
DIV>
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