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Finally, Dr. Black's latest post helped me to understand George's
vehement responses to stupid ideas!
As I was thinking about the idea of letting one of my students- be they
medical students, interns, residents, or fellows- get away with a
medication error, it dawned on me... The reason why George and the
others get so pissy at times is the seriousness of their business.
I would never let one of my students pass if they got "most" of their
diagnosis or treatments right. When it comes to real, life and death
situations, 100% correct is the minimum standard! That is why poor
teaching practices and letting less than very knowledgeable students
pass is so wrong. Whether it is medicine, where other people die, or
technical diving, where at least one, if not several can die, perfection
is always required.
Granted, I don't offer to cut my medical students a new path for
defecation every time they don't know the right answer. But if you are
a senior fellow, if you don't get it right all the time, you don't get
out of my sight to blow your nose!
The same should go for diving.
Open water, look at the pretty fishes at 10 meters, kind of diving can
be alot more forgiving than 130 feet, 15 foot vis, 2 knot current Jersey
wreck diving. Real tech diving, be it 200+ foot Atlantic wrecks, or
deep penetration cave diving is a whole order of magnitude above that.
And therefor it is necessary that the instructor be that much more
exacting in his standards.
If you can't tell students that they can't cut it, get out of the biz.
Wendell Grogan,
(various degrees, professorships, etc.)
Jim Cobb wrote:
>
> Oh, lord, dr. quack is back. You are so stupid you wouldn't know how to pour
> piss out of boot if the instructions were written on the heel.
>
> I thought we humiliated you over there in rec.scuba to the point that even
> your most stalwart zombie supporters now have doubts about the BS you spread
> around there. What's the matter, did the Zeagle crowd toss you out, and now
> you are back here, you ignorant moron?
>
> What I'd like you to tell me how many people fail a parachute training
> course by creating a cookie-cutter image of themselves on ground zero? In
> dive training this is a normal everyday occurrence which, apparently IANTD
> has no problem with. "A cost of doing business" as they say. I will bet your
> local medical supplies company does a banner business in white canes with
> you practicing in town.
>
> Jim
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> > From: "Michael J. Black" <mjblackmd@ya*.co*>
> > Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 12:56:13 -0700 (PDT)
> > To: Aquanaut Mail <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > Cc: TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*
> > Subject: Re: IANTD
> >
> > Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*> wrote:
> >
> >> IANTD. Christalmighty, Tom Mount, how can you let this shit out the
> >> door?
> >
> > Hey Tom, better have a look at this thread. The Cobber doesn't
> > understand how you, or any instructor, could be so negligent to
> > allow a student out the door, with a passing grade, who doesn't
> > understand absolutely everything you've taught him. Kindof like
> > me expecting every one of my patients to never miss a single dose
> > of medication, ever. I guess the Cobber expects you to hold
> > every student's hand, even after they've received a passing grade.
> > Bet you didn't know that you're supposed to be responsible FOR
> > your students' actions, besides being responsible TO them as an
> > instructor. Give it a rest Cobber, you're starting to look like
> > the moron you really are. MJB
> >
> >
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