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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 13:04:06 -0400
Subject: Re: Bryon on Blending and being whipped
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>
To: Bryon Bertrim <bryon@bi*.co*>, Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>,
     Scott ,
     "techdiver@aquanaut.com"
Mixing is not the hard part, diving your mix is. Once again I can see from
this post that you  have aways to go. There is no "sissy" or "high-test"
mixture, there is only the correct mixture(s) for a particular dive. In
certain situations breathing 32% can kill you just as dead as 100%. Don't be
in such a hurry to be a macho tech diver, there's nothing down there worth
dying for.

   Jim
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 Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/

> From: Bryon Bertrim <bryon@bi*.co*>
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 00:42:25 -0400
> To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>, Scott <scottk@hc*.co*>,
> "techdiver@aquanaut.com" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Subject: Bryon on Blending and being whipped
> 
> Jim Cobb, Scott, Friends
> You hit it on the head. For most  Tri blending is near voodoo black magic ,
> clearly you guys have demystified things for your selves and in due course so
> will
> I. The shroud of bull shit is fading away fast. From the variety of public and
> private posts received it is clear that there is still a lot of controversy
> and
> misinformation about Tri blending in the very heart of the Tech community.
> (There
> were so many conflicting replies) The courses taken from IANTD were blending
> for
> Nitrox only and they serve well to get you out the gate. At some point you
> need to
> take your first breath from your own blended mix it is the same for Nitrox and
> Trimix. After that it is all down hill, you are a blender and a mixed gas
> diver
> for real.  In fact i consider Nitrox the most important because it all comes
> down
> to the crucial PPO2. I can not see how exact PPHe and PPNi are really 1000
> percent
> important. Blending is not rocket science after 6-7 months i have no problem
> hitting + or -  one percent and most times its bang on man. If not i try to
> fix it
> or blow it off and start over, end of story.
> 
> On a personal note blending for me came about not because i wanted a sissy 32
> mix
> but rather i wanted a high test 80 mix of O2 for deco. And after all the IANTD
> bull shit i went through including my intro to OMS etc. I said fuck it and now
> i
> mainly  use 100% O2 for deco.  Why kiss some snot nosed kids ass at the dive
> shop
> when it comes to Oxy cleaning or certification just use 100% O2. 99% of the
> shops
> out there don't know what the fuck they are talking about even when it comes
> to
> Nitrox basics let alone Tri blending.
> 
> Everybody going down the same road i am should get a copy of the Oxy Hackers
> Handbook before taking any courses. At the very least it will make you the
> biggest
> Ahole in the class from the instructors point of view. see
> www.conknet.com/~g_packard/OXYHACKER.HTML
> 
> Next week question will be "Whats the real world story on Oxy cleaning"
> 
> What is very funny is the tirade you guys put on for such a simple question. I
> will sit down and think up some more to keep you guys busy.
> A simple YES you can use the same whip for Argon would have been just fine.
> Thanx for making me feel so loved
> Bryon out
> 
> 
> 
> Jim Cobb wrote:
> 
>> IANTD. Christalmighty, Tom Mount, how can you let this shit get out the
>> door?
>> 
>> Jim
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>> Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/
>> 
>>> From: "Scott" <scottk@hc*.co*>
>>> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 19:39:29 -0700
>>> To: "Bryon Bertrim" <bryon_bertrim@ho*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Q about 02 fill whip experience
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Bryon Bertrim" <bryon_bertrim@ho*.co*>
>>> To: <scottk@hc*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2000 5:48 PM
>>> Subject: Q about 02 fill whip experience
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I do consider myself a Newbie to blending but as for my experience FUCK
>>> OFF
>>>> i am not looking for a big brother just answer the question. And for the
>>>> record i just cut the bungees off my OMS BC while my new DIR wing is on
>>>> order. I actually prefer the ride. Whodathunkit.
>>> 
>>> Well, Bryon, you just go mix and dive whatever mix you think you can mix and
>>> survive. I wish you the best of luck, because luck is *all* you have in your
>>> corner.
>>> "cut bungies" or not.
>>> 
>>> FTR, I am *not* looking for a little brother. Either of my sons could kick
>>> your ass.
>>> 
>>> Here is the simple truth, dickhead:
>>> 
>>> If you don't know whether a "02 clean" fill whip will work for He, you are
>>> in *way* over your head. Go take some more IANTD courses. You are in
>>> desperate need, not only of training, but of intelligence.
>>> 
>>> Now, if you are so fucking smart, why are you asking *stupid* questions?
>>> 
>>> My answer to you is simple:
>>> 
>>> Don't do it. You *do not* have the knowledge, ability to learn, or balls to
>>> do what you are asking us to give you the ability to do.
>>> 
>>> You aint got it, and you aint getting it here.
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> (do they raise them from birth?)
>>> 
>>> 
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