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This is why they push through the OW divers, they hardly make anything off of them. They then convince the newbies to take more advanced classes that will hopefully get them up to the level that they should have been at in the first place. The instructors like the more advanced classes better as well since they get to keep the money instead of just getting the $40/student they get for the OW course. It's the only way they can make a living is to make sure the diver needs to take more advanced training. Don -----Original Message----- From: Todd Baldi [mailto:sandiegoaes@ya*.co*] Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 2:06 PM To: Mcinnis, Don Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: RE: Reality was Re: Reality Sucks for the "old timers" You make good points. There is nothing wrong with being passionate about diving. I still am after 10 years of teaching it and made some great friends while doing it. I would have loved to have done it for a career and still would if you could make enough money at it to sustain a reasonable (note I said reasonable, not extravagant) living at it. I put in ten years of teaching, working in a dive shop, repairing regs, doing dives with the lifeguards and San Diego Sherriff's and put about $20,000 of my own money into equipment and supplies to teach scuba. And you know what? The best job I can get is for about $16,000 a year. My point is that diving instructors are talented individuals and you have to put a lot of personal time and sacrifice to earn their stripes. And this is the best living that you can make? The way the industry is structured right now is a complete joke. Ask any instructor if you can make money in it. You can't. Unless you hook up as a manufacturers rep. They haven't raised prices in 50 years!!!!! It is a stagnant industry. I know. I worked in it for 13 years. --- "Mcinnis, Don" <Don.Mcinnis@in*.co*> wrote: > How the times change. My scuba course cost me $30 > back in 1973. My > instructor worked for the state of Washington by day > and having his basement > diveshop was his "passion". Full rental gear was $5 > a day for students (past > & present) and $10 a day for all others. He did it > to get people diving and > was just as possionate about making sure that the > divers he turned out into > the water were capable and qualified. > > Don > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Connell [mailto:kevin@nw*.co*] > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 10:23 AM > To: dmdalton > Cc: cavers@ca*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com > Subject: Re: Reality was Re: Reality Sucks for the > "old timers" > > > At 11:49 PM 4/12/2000 -0400, dmdalton wrote: > >My sons lessons 3 years ago cost $325 but the > instuctor (a personal friend > >of mine) only got $40 of that fee. When I taught > (73-80) I used to get $40 > >per student out of a $200 course fee. This > instructor, who works for me > >under contract as an investigator @ $30 an hour > said if he got that hourly > >rate to teach diving he figured he would make close > to $3,000 per class. > >People spend $3,500 - $5,000 to learn to fly and > would do the same to learn > >to dive except for what I call "Dalton's Law of > Stupid Supply" which states > >"There is no end to the supply of stupid people > willing to do something for > >an ever decreasing amount of money, if the ego > gratification is > sufficient!" > > Also known as "non monetary rewards" Almost all > teachers have the same > problem - they value teaching in other ways than > money - Although most > scuba instructors realize this, most other teachers > are too stupid to > realize this, and then complain about their low > wages. Hello. > > "Kevin's law of shut up you stupid bleeding hearts" > - Nobody holds a gun to > your head and makes you go to work > > rant mode off. > > > > > > > ---------------------------------- > Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> > > NW Labor Systems, Inc > http://www.nwls.com > > Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate. > (plurality should not be posited without > necessity - Occam's razor) > > > ---------------------------------- > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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