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From: steamboat@is*.ne* (Dustin Clesi)
To: <trey@ne*.co*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Myths & Realities
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 15:59:07 -0400
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Oh, Trey, you're so nice to me! I go out for a few days diving and looky =
what you've sent me; but all your material is over
two years old #@!?!   Jeez....I'da thought Mike would have=20
kicked you off of Techdiver by now.  Is that ALL you've got?  OK, I'll =
play......this time. You'll have new material soon enough, but for now, =
here are some of your current quotes, myths and realities:
                            =20
                               CHAPTER ONE
                       'The I, Me, Mine Syndrome'
=20
".......my ten years of experience cave diving with JJ."
How? You were struggling to complete a cavern course
in 1991....a newbie.
=20
".......you were diving with Macomber King."
Sure...we did 60-100 min bottom times at 350' in cave in ' 91.
See #1 above. Unfortunately, you weren't available in 1991 to supervise =
us, nor did you know what Trimix was at the time.
=20
".......my history of (body) recoveries."(One of my favorites)=20
Reality:  You've never done any. Not one.  A couple of the fellows you =
rag on are known and respected by Sherriff's depts. statewide and have =
done at least a dozen....and hope there is never another.
=20
"......you have no friends."
ROFL !!! If you and I counted 'enemies', I'd lose in less than
1.2 seconds.  Even Hogarth himself won't talk to you and one of your =
"buddies", I'm told, scopes you for practice every time
you enter Gilchrist County!  Get a clue. The quiet ones are the most =
dangerous.
=20
".......attack JJ"
The only source of irritation ever between myself and JJ has
been YOU. =20
 "........attack GUE" (a good one) When? Why? Half of the Instructors =
listed are also NSS/NACD listed. The other half
have been listed less than a year.
YOU are the one doing all the attacking.
=20
"......NSSCDS/NACD teach nothing but death, death, death".
Some may argue that you are a good 'teacher' and a great
source of diving-related information but you couldn't certify a horses' =
rear end.  The only teaching credential you ever held was revoked by =
that agency within 90 days.
This is why you can trash Instructors at will (good and bad)
.......zero accountability.  I may revile alcoholism, 80% 'trox, danglies =
or the lack of physical fitness in diving, but a word will not be =
uttered. I don't have to teach squat.
=20
"......Bates-like motel"  Yeah, we're doing so bad we have
to add a new wing.  "Norman" is here and has a nice=20
shower ready for you.=20
=20
"......pathetic dive shop"  Trey, you are some of our BEST
advertising. Keep it up. Can't tell you how much DUI &
ScubaPro product from this shop ends up in Wakulla.
Besides, we don't care what you think! =20
=20
".......I have the end of the line in every major cave in Florida"
Only in your dreams. The reality is only Leon Sinks where
you can preclude any talent (by virtue of the permit issued
in your name and not the org.) that might threaten an attempt. A monkey =
can get very good at something if he=20
does it often enough.
So Stone gets his own permit (THE HORROR)......and some of us knew the =
probable outcome....yet you whine like a BABY for months, anyway.
=20
".......my team...... best divers anywhere"=20
Reality: You're an embarrassment to many of them. They
have said so. There are 3 to 5 very good.  Some want to be and perhaps =
someday will be. The remainder just want to dive. Meanwhile, you'll have =
to EXPLAIN to them why they can only carry your bottles in Wakulla.
=20
"......he's a farm animal, scum, fat cow, slob, et.al."
Nobody's railing on your past reported substance abuse problem or the =
proported role Daddy has played in your history of employment. (Here =
tell you couldn't hold a job at the 7-11 working for the Coneheads) How =
did you pass the 7?
=20
"........I hope to find you......whip your ass"
Oye, maricone! You already have, several times, but you are either =
surrounded, mit deine Liebstandarte, or hiding in the back of your van. =
Bring a milk crate, when you do, so you can stand on it and truly get in =
my face. Otherwise, quit
spraying thin testosterone all over everybody's screens!
          =20
And your personal favorite of many posts:
"........because he was schtupping your girlfriend"
"He" doesn't have a horse in any race, but because you
feel it's your business, and again without facts, I'm afraid
the joke is ON YOU! =20
Reality: I was schtupping his girlfriend.....or should I say mistress?  =
There he was, a member of your team, a married man, pleading at the =
front door while she repeatedly asked  him to leave. It was 1:00 a.m., =
he interrupted our study of
"Modern Stress Reduction" and when he came back the second time, he got =
what he got.
Thus concludes the Case of the "Better Schtupper Upher".
=20
Stay tuned for:    CHAPTER TWO....
         "How I can make Florida divers look bad"
 a/k/a   "Self Aggrandizement.....A Primer"

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Oh, Trey, you're so nice to me! I go =
out for a=20
few days diving and looky what you've sent me; but all your material is=20
over</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>two years old #@!?!   =
Jeez....I'da=20
thought Mike would have </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>kicked you off of Techdiver by =
now.  Is=20
that ALL you've got? </FONT><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2> OK, =
I'll=20
play......this time. You'll have new material soon enough, but for now, =
here=20
</FONT><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>are some of your current quotes, =
myths and=20
realities:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000=20
size=3D2>          &nbs=
p;            =
;     =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000=20
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p;            =
;       =20
CHAPTER ONE</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000=20
size=3D2>          &nbs=
p;           =20
'The I, Me, Mine Syndrome'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>".......my ten years of experience cave diving =
with=20
JJ."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>How? You were struggling to complete a cavern=20
course</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>in 1991....a newbie.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>".......you were diving with =
Macomber=20
King."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2>Sure...we
did =
60-100 min=20
bottom times at 350' in cave in ' 91.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>See #1 above. Unfortunately, you weren't available =
in 1991 to=20
supervise us, nor did you know what Trimix was at the time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>".......my history of (body)=20
recoveries."</FONT><FONT size=3D2>(One of my =
favorites) </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Reality:  You've never done any.
</FONT><FONT =
size=3D2>Not=20
one.  A couple of the fellows you rag on are known and </FONT><FONT =

size=3D2>respected by Sherriff's depts. statewide and have done =
</FONT><FONT=20
size=3D2>at least a dozen....and hope there is never =
another.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>"......you have no
friends."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>ROFL !!! If you and I counted 'enemies', I'd lose in =
less=20
than</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>1.2 seconds.  Even Hogarth himself won't talk =
to you and=20
one of </FONT><FONT size=3D2>your "buddies", I'm told, scopes =
you for=20
practice every time</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>you enter Gilchrist County!  Get a clue. The =
quiet ones=20
are the most dangerous.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>".......attack JJ"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>The only source of irritation ever between myself =
and JJ=20
has</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>been YOU.  </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> "........attack GUE" (a good one) =
When?=20
</FONT><FONT size=3D2>Why? Half of the Instructors listed are also =
NSS/NACD=20
listed. The other half</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>have been listed less than a year.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>YOU are
the =
one doing all=20
the attacking.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>"......NSSCDS/NACD teach nothing but death, =
death,=20
death".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Some may argue that you are a good 'teacher' and a=20
great</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>source of diving-related information but you =
</FONT><FONT=20
size=3D2>couldn't certify a horses' rear end.  The only teaching =
credential=20
</FONT><FONT size=3D2>you ever held was revoked by that agency within =
</FONT><FONT=20
size=3D2>90 days.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>This is why you can trash Instructors at will (good =
and=20
bad)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>......zero accountability.  I may revile =
</FONT><FONT=20
size=3D2>alcoholism, 80% 'trox, danglies or the lack of physical fitness =
in=20
</FONT><FONT size=3D2>diving, but a word will not be uttered. I don't =
have to=20
teach squat.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>"......Bates-like motel"  Yeah, we're =
doing so=20
bad we have</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>to add a new wing.  "Norman" is here =
and has a=20
</FONT><FONT size=3D2>nice </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>shower ready for you. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>"......pathetic dive shop"  Trey, you =
are some=20
of our BEST</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>advertising. Keep it up. Can't tell you how much DUI =

&</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>ScubaPro product from this shop ends up in=20
Wakulla.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Besides, we don't care what you think!  =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>".......I have the end of the line in every =
major cave in=20
Florida"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Only in your dreams. The reality is only Leon Sinks=20
where</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>you can preclude any talent (by virtue of the permit =

issued</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>in your name and not the org.) that might threaten =
an attempt.=20
A monkey can get very good at </FONT><FONT size=3D2>something if he =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>does it often enough.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>So Stone gets his own permit </FONT><FONT =
size=3D2>(THE=20
HORROR)......</FONT><FONT size=3D2>and some of us knew the probable =
outcome....yet=20
you whine </FONT><FONT size=3D2>like a BABY for months, =
anyway.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>".......my team...... best divers=20
anywhere" </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2>Reality: You're an =
embarrassment to many=20
of them. They</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>have said so. There are 3 to 5 very good.  Some =
want to=20
be </FONT><FONT size=3D2>and perhaps someday will be. The remainder =
</FONT><FONT=20
size=3D2>just want to dive. Meanwhile, you'll have to EXPLAIN to them =
why they can=20
only carry your bottles in </FONT><FONT
size=3D2>Wakulla.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>"......he's a farm animal, scum, fat cow, slob, =

et.al."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Nobody's railing on your past reported substance =
abuse problem=20
</FONT><FONT size=3D2>or the proported role Daddy has played in your =
history of=20
employment. </FONT><FONT size=3D2>(Here tell you couldn't hold a job at =
the 7-11=20
working for the </FONT><FONT size=3D2>Coneheads) How did you pass the=20
7?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>"........I hope to find you......whip your=20
ass"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Oye, maricone! You already have, several times, but =
you are=20
either </FONT><FONT size=3D2>surrounded, mit deine Liebstandarte, or =
hiding in the=20
back </FONT><FONT size=3D2>of </FONT><FONT size=3D2>your van. Bring
a =
milk crate,=20
when you do, so you can </FONT><FONT size=3D2>stand on it and truly get =
in my=20
face. Otherwise, quit</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>spraying thin testosterone all over everybody's=20
screens!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000=20
size=3D2>          =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>And your personal favorite of many=20
posts:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT =
size=3D2>"........because he was=20
schtupping your girlfriend"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>"He" doesn't have a horse in any race, but =
because=20
you</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>feel it's your business, and again without facts, =
I'm=20
afraid</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>the joke is ON YOU!  </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Reality: I was schtupping his </FONT><FONT=20
size=3D2>girlfriend.....or should I say mistress?  There he was, =
</FONT><FONT=20
size=3D2>a member of your team, a married man, pleading at the =
</FONT><FONT=20
size=3D2>front door while she repeatedly asked  him to leave. It =
was=20
</FONT><FONT size=3D2>1:00 a.m., he interrupted our study =
of</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>"Modern Stress Reduction" and when he came =
back the=20
second time, he got what he got.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thus concludes the Case of the "Better =
Schtupper=20
Upher".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Stay
tuned=20
for:    CHAPTER TWO....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT=20
size=3D2>         "How I =
can make=20
Florida divers look bad"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> </FONT><FONT size=3D2>a/k/a   =
"Self=20
Aggrandizement.....A Primer"</FONT></DIV>
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