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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:55:02 -0500
From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: Dustin Clesi <steamboat@is*.ne*>
CC: Scott <scottk@hc*.co*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Myths & Realities
Dustin, Bobby is dead. Please do not insult him by pretending that he
though you were anything but a stroke . Parker Tuner died long before
McGuire started diving with the WKPP, and I will be glad to match the
track record of the WKPP under my leadership to anything you or the
combined gaggle of your screwup NACD or CDS have ever done , and I will
also be glad to stop by your shop any time and give you the chance to
threaten me in person like you did in email when one of our guys
schtupped your girlfriend ( the horror ).

Dustin , you are a nobody stroke from Branford who owns a Bates-like
motel that a sheep would not stay in. Your dive shop is a pathetic joke,
right down to that ridiculous article you have laminated about how you
staged a clusterfuck at Deipolder with Jimbo "Francis Macomber" King.
You have a reputation worldwide as a known asshole and a class A
bullshitter. Nobody likes your stupid ass. The nickname of your personal
hell there is the "steamBOAST" Inn.

Now, lose the name of the WKPP, or deal with me dirctly. You will not
like that , pussy. I do not want to have to tell you agsin.

Dustin Clesi wrote:
> 
> You guys convolute the truth so often,  lie about
> history so much......you begin to believe it.
> Easy to do, sitting behind a keyboard, knowing
> nothing else.
> I logged a slew of cave dives with McGuire over
> several years time and the only "memberships"
> he had was NSSCDS/NACD.
> Parker Turner's WKPP was not convoluted then,
> either.
> Suck it in if you don't like it.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott <scottk@hc*.co*>
> To: Tech list <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Date: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 11:20 PM
> Subject: Fw: Myths & Realities
> 
> >List has been kinda dead, so I thought you might get a chuckle out of the
> >latest
> >pearl of wisdom from the good doctor.
> >
> >Apparently, the doc is for real:
> >
> >MICHAEL BLACK
> >Address: Riverview Clinic
> >580 N Washington St
> >City, State ZipCode: Janesville, WI 53545
> >Phone Number: (608) 755-3500
> >Specialty: Ophthalmology
> >
> >What a tool.
> >
> >Scott
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <mjblackmd@my*.co*>
> >Newsgroups: rec.scuba
> >Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 11:09 AM
> >Subject: DIR: Myths & Realities
> >
> >
> >> Myth 1:  DIR has had no fatalities or accidents.  Reality:  Bobby
> >> McGuirre, a WKPP/DIR diver, died while diving DIR in a cave, and
> >> represents at least one accident DIR cannot deny.
> >>
> >> Myth 2:  DIR is useful for cave diving, but can be applied to ALL
> >> forms of diving.  Reality:  Very few people use DIR outside of cave
> >> diving, because the system is inflexible and impractical.  In fact
> >> DIR teaches using NO COMPUTER, only a bottom timer, hardly a practical
> >> recommendation nowadays.
> >>
> >> Myth 3:  DIR uses safe procedures, both in and out of the water.
> >> Reality:  DIR uses procedures that do not comply with guidelines
> >> established by NOAA and the U.S. Navy, including flying only three
> >> hours after a deep deco dive, in-water recompression for decompression
> >> accidents, diving well beyond recreational limits and simultaneously
> >> striving to shorten decompression times, exercising heavily shortly
> >> after diving, plus others which are hardly safe.
> >>
> >> Myth 4:  DIR is practiced by the BEST divers in the world.  Reality:
> >> The BEST divers in the world are too busy diving and conducting
> >> research to be sitting around posting to Techdiver, Rec.scuba, the
> >> GUE list, Rodale's, or any other newsgroup in cyberspace.  The BEST
> >> divers in the world, with few exceptions, are conspicuously absent
> >> from these lists.
> >>
> >> Myth 5:  DIR is a new movement in Scuba that will grow and someday
> >> surpass other systems.  Reality:  Tech diving will continue to grow,
> >> but the training agencies that will attract the most students are
> >> the ones with time-honored teaching skills, including respect, patience,
> >> and avoidance of name-calling such as DIR's infamous "stoke."
> >>
> >> Myth 6:  DIR is a system based on experience and proven facts.  Reality:
> >> Although many DIR divers have experience in technical diving, there
> >> are many among them who extrapolate facts to the point of distortion,
> >> confusion, and lack of truth.  The message soon becomes lost in all the
> >> noise.
> >>
> >> Myth 7:  DIR is a system for everybody.  Reality:  Personal preference
> >> is the system for everybody.  You have the right to choose DIR or the
> >> right to choose another system, or to incorporate useful parts of any
> >> system that suits your needs.  No single system will ever be the panacea
> >> for everybody.
> >>
> >> MJB
> >
> >
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