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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 06:35:29 -0500
From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: Fabricio Rosas Tariki <frtariki@or*.co*.br*>
CC: Aquanaut Techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Stage Regs...was: DIN Fitting/A Clamp
I use DIN for everything , from argon to backgas. The old timers in WKPP
used to use yoke because they did not have enough regs and would switch
underwater, adn DIN was not yet available anyway. I was the first one to
even have a DIN manifold or DIN stages. We no longer encourage
underwater reg switching even on deco gas an intentional plan for the
last several years. 

The funny thing about yoke is that it is easy to change underwater - but
then you get a lot of chances to do so. DIN does not provide that
entertainment.

However, the fact is that theoreticly , they should both be the same vis
a vis the o-ring. On the fragility issue, it is the knob that is your
risk, not the DIN. Break the knob and you can't turn it on. If you are
using a reg that has a thin DIN tube, and you were to hit it hard enough
against something, it would indeed break, but that is more likely to
occur on land than in the water.

In real life, the rocking of the yoke reg under pressure againt the
non-captured o-ring is what shaves the ring and breaks it, and the thing
that wears the ring out so fast is that the reg constantly twists
against it under pressure, whereas the DIN ring does not get that kind
of play due to the nature of DIN. The "capturing" of the o-ring is
insignificant otherwise.

If I were buying , I would buy DIN. 

Fabricio Rosas Tariki wrote:
> 
> List, regarding to DIN or yoke connections on stage bottles, which one is
> DIR? I've heard from a GUE instructor that DIN fittings are a no-no for
> stages, due to it's fragility to impact. Something that a shock would render
> the stage reg useless. Is there any truth in it? If affirmative, when diving
> with one stage only, should I go for yoke or stick to DIN (as my back gas
> regs are all DIN)?
> 
> Regards
> Fabricio
> 
> -----Mensagem original-----
> De: Andreas Nowotny <nowo11@gm*.ne*>
> Para: techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Data: Quarta-feira, 29 de Março de 2000 05:29
> Assunto: Re: DIN Fitting/A Clamp
> 
>  At 01:00 26.03.00 -0000, Paul Wright wrote:
> >With the current UK/USA/Europe slight antagonism taking place it would
> >be interesting to hear the views of the list members on the merits of DIN
> >against A Clamp (US Fitting for pillar valve/regulator attachment.
> 
> One of the most important advantages of the DIN fitting is that the o-ring
> is on the first stage, not the bottle. Blown o-rings should really not
> happen this way.
> All in all, the DIN way seems to me more secure. The A-clamp is probably
> good enough for rec-diving, but I generally prefer the (subjective) feeling
> of that little extra security the DIN connections provide.
> 
> Then again, I'm German and thus just used to it. Did use A-clamps on
> holiday though and had no problems either.
> 
> Andy
> 
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