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From: "Richard Hollingworth" <dikndi@me*.ne*>
To: "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>,
     "dmdalton" ,
     "Gatto, Richard RG SCC" ,
    
Subject: Re: Full Auto Snorkels
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 12:53:30 -0600
Jim

The truth of the fact is that you have "Common Sense" Regulation is a
necessary evil for complete morons ( Black et al)

So we see the Dive organisations try to govern themselves so as to avoid
federal regulation, and look where that leads us.

I would be happy to be regulated, so long as the people that made the rules
knew what they were talking about. To quote a phrase " Been there, done
that"

But we all know that isn't the case, instead, Moronic, Political, Lawyers.
Or suck arses that dive their desks and PCs on a regular basis end up making
the rules

Back to square one


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>
To: "dmdalton" <dmdalton@qu*.ne*>; "Gatto, Richard RG SCC"
<RG982309@MS*.SH*.CO*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: Full Auto Snorkels


> Actually we should not laugh at this trigger lock thing. If this becomes
law
> it is only a matter of time until OSHA will require "regulator locks" to
be
> installed on scuba equipment to prevent untrained divers from using your
> equipment.
>
> You laugh at this? In Europe they already have a Nitrox special tank valve
> and regulator. I don't know what happens if they catch you with Nitrox
(or,
> God help us, trimix) in a non-nitrox cylinder but at the very least the
> lawyers will have a field-day with it.
>
> Beware the gradual chipping away of our freedoms, folks, this trigger lock
> law leaves your home open to the Feds and to lawyers. And if it proves
> profitable, er, successful you will see required locks springing up on all
> sorts of sporting equipment.
>
> Don't get me wrong, I keep my weapon in a rapid-access gun safe to keep it
> away from the kids, and believe that this should be the norm. But if it
> becomes a Federal Mandate, regulator locks here we come.
>
>    Jim
>  -------------------------------------------------------------------
>  Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/
>
> > From: "dmdalton" <dmdalton@qu*.ne*>
> > Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 22:22:10 -0500
> > To: "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>, "Gatto, Richard RG SCC"
> > <RG982309@MS*.SH*.CO*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > Subject: Full Auto Snorkels
> >
> > Quiet Jim, or you'll have the Clinton Administration wanting to cut a
deal
> > with Scuba Pro that would install a high-tech lock on that snorkel so
only
> > an authorized breather would be able to breathe out of that snorkel!
> >
> > Suggest you encourage your son in this play. Then when he comes of age
he
> > can join my son (currently at Recruit Training Command, Great Lakes
> > Illinois, SEAL Challenge Program) in the armed forces and be one of the
> > proud few who willingly serve our country in defense of the freedom we
all
> > enjoy but so few deserve!
> >
> > On the other had you could take it and give him a doll or something but
> > based on the amount of testosterone you regularly pump out on this list,
I'm
> > willing to bet he would just point his finger and switch it on full auto
> > (with his pinky finger pointing down to emulate a pre-Brady 30 round
clip)!
> > <g>
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>
> > To: Gatto, Richard RG SCC <RG982309@MS*.SH*.CO*>;
> > <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 12:08 PM
> > Subject: Re: Halcyon gear...
> >
> >
> >> My 3yr old kid found my old snorkel (never used and kind of moldy) and
is
> >> now using it as an assault weapon. He loads it with crayons and tips if
> >> forward and when the crayons slide out he goes BANG BANG BANG. A full
auto
> >> snorkel! A truly dangerous weapon. I'm tempted to play BATF with him,
kick
> >> his bedroom door in at midnight, shake him down and handcuff him for
being
> > a
> >> threat to society.
> >>
> >> Jim
> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/
> >>
> >>> From: "Gatto, Richard RG SCC" <RG982309@MS*.SH*.CO*>
> >>> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 08:07:09 -0600
> >>> To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> >>> Subject: RE: Halcyon gear...
> >>>
> >>> Snorkel??? Oh yeah, I remember that thing. Never used it after my
> > original
> >>> cert class. Just a piece of unused plastic attached to my gear. Lost
it
> > on a
> >>> heavy current drift dive about six or so years ago. Never missed it.
> >>>
> >>> Rick
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Not to mention my snorkel fits nicely in the space between tank and
> >>>> backplate  :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Checkout...
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.scu.edu.au/staff_pages/shartley/projects/gear/snorkel.jpg
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>>
> >>>> Simon
> >>>>
> >>>> P.S.  More pics
> > http://www.scu.edu.au/staff_pages/shartley/projects/gear/
> >>>> (will update images to reflect change to hose routing, strobe
> > placement,
> >>>> etc (listed) as soon as my arm is out of plaster and I get access to
a
> >>>> digital camera again).
> >>>>
> >>>>
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