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From: "Ted Phelps" <tphelps@ph*.co*>
To: "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>,
     "dmdalton" ,
     "Gatto, Richard RG SCC" ,
    
Subject: RE: Full Auto Snorkels
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 12:21:47 -0800
DITTO DITTO DITTO

JIM'S DOIN' IT RIGHT WITH THOSE COMMENTS!!!

THE ONLY MANDATORY LOCKS I WANT TO SEE ARE ON HANDCUFFS ON A SLICK WILLIE
DRESSED IN AN ORANGE JUMPSUIT!!!

Pardon me for shouting.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Cobb [mailto:cobber@ma*.ci*.co*]
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 6:53 AM
To: dmdalton; Gatto, Richard RG SCC; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Full Auto Snorkels

Actually we should not laugh at this trigger lock thing. If this becomes law
it is only a matter of time until OSHA will require "regulator locks" to be
installed on scuba equipment to prevent untrained divers from using your
equipment.

You laugh at this? In Europe they already have a Nitrox special tank valve
and regulator. I don't know what happens if they catch you with Nitrox (or,
God help us, trimix) in a non-nitrox cylinder but at the very least the
lawyers will have a field-day with it.

Beware the gradual chipping away of our freedoms, folks, this trigger lock
law leaves your home open to the Feds and to lawyers. And if it proves
profitable, er, successful you will see required locks springing up on all
sorts of sporting equipment.

Don't get me wrong, I keep my weapon in a rapid-access gun safe to keep it
away from the kids, and believe that this should be the norm. But if it
becomes a Federal Mandate, regulator locks here we come.

   Jim
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> From: "dmdalton" <dmdalton@qu*.ne*>
> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 22:22:10 -0500
> To: "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>, "Gatto, Richard RG SCC"
> <RG982309@MS*.SH*.CO*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Subject: Full Auto Snorkels
>
> Quiet Jim, or you'll have the Clinton Administration wanting to cut a deal
> with Scuba Pro that would install a high-tech lock on that snorkel so only
> an authorized breather would be able to breathe out of that snorkel!
>
> Suggest you encourage your son in this play. Then when he comes of age he
> can join my son (currently at Recruit Training Command, Great Lakes
> Illinois, SEAL Challenge Program) in the armed forces and be one of the
> proud few who willingly serve our country in defense of the freedom we all
> enjoy but so few deserve!
>
> On the other had you could take it and give him a doll or something but
> based on the amount of testosterone you regularly pump out on this list,
I'm
> willing to bet he would just point his finger and switch it on full auto
> (with his pinky finger pointing down to emulate a pre-Brady 30 round
clip)!
> <g>
>
> Dave
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>
> To: Gatto, Richard RG SCC <RG982309@MS*.SH*.CO*>;
> <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 12:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Halcyon gear...
>
>
>> My 3yr old kid found my old snorkel (never used and kind of moldy) and is
>> now using it as an assault weapon. He loads it with crayons and tips if
>> forward and when the crayons slide out he goes BANG BANG BANG. A full
auto
>> snorkel! A truly dangerous weapon. I'm tempted to play BATF with him,
kick
>> his bedroom door in at midnight, shake him down and handcuff him for
being
> a
>> threat to society.
>>
>> Jim
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/
>>
>>> From: "Gatto, Richard RG SCC" <RG982309@MS*.SH*.CO*>
>>> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 08:07:09 -0600
>>> To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
>>> Subject: RE: Halcyon gear...
>>>
>>> Snorkel??? Oh yeah, I remember that thing. Never used it after my
> original
>>> cert class. Just a piece of unused plastic attached to my gear. Lost it
> on a
>>> heavy current drift dive about six or so years ago. Never missed it.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Not to mention my snorkel fits nicely in the space between tank and
>>>> backplate  :-)
>>>>
>>>> Checkout...
>>>>
>>>> http://www.scu.edu.au/staff_pages/shartley/projects/gear/snorkel.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Simon
>>>>
>>>> P.S.  More pics
> http://www.scu.edu.au/staff_pages/shartley/projects/gear/
>>>> (will update images to reflect change to hose routing, strobe
> placement,
>>>> etc (listed) as soon as my arm is out of plaster and I get access to a
>>>> digital camera again).
>>>>
>>>>
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