At 07:33  23/03/00 , Larry Holding wrote:
> >Hi Larry,
> >
> >I dont know if we met at Badgat on the weekend, but I am glad that somebody
> >is putting forward your guys view.  I am interested to see the responses.
>
>
>No, I was not there.
>
> >It is a pity that you guys are so proud of being strokes that you dont
> >seriously think about the fundamental configuration problems that you have.
>
>The guys are having so much fun baiting you that some of the claims that
>they are making are probably exagerations. This is a natural reaction to the
>way that DIR is presented to them. Not as an alternative, but as the only
>way!

Larry - sounds like the guys obviously have an alternative that is 
at least the equal of DIR, if not better. Come on then, since you're 
the spokesperson for Seth Efrika's Diving Intelligensia, explain some 
of the alternatives to us.

Oh, and here's a clue for you Drooling Mutant Yarpies- using only short 
hoses in an overhead environment is no more an alternative to DIR than 
pissing in the swimming pool is an alternative to using the toilet.


>A parallel which as just come to mind is the difference between a manual 
>and an automatic gearbox in your car (not even going to the semi-automatic or
>tiptronic(tm) systems:-) ).
>
>With the automatic gearbox (DIR) your input is limited to deciding if you
>want to go faster or slower. You can relax and enjoy the trip, probably also
>set the cruise control and watch the world outside your window.
>
>A manual gearbox (Independants) means you have to watch all the time what
>the road is doing: is there a hill coming, do you need to zip past this
>truck in front of you, and you have to make decisions constantly. But these
>decisions (for me at least) are in your muscle memory, you know what is
>happening and why you changed gear, but did not have to think about it.

Larry if you're claiming that you rely on muscle memory to manage twin 
independents, then either you are dumber than the picture No-no Gomez 
paints of you all, or nature has indeed played a cruel trick down there 
In the world centre of underwater stupidity and has filled all your 
skull cavities with muscle.

Your problem is that you are not only incapable of putting together a 
coherent system of diving equipment, you are incapable of putting 
together a coherent explanation of why you do the things you do. And
when someone like Simon takes the time to write "It is a pity that you 
guys are so proud of being strokes that you dont seriously think about 
the fundamental configuration problems that you have." you guys are too
stupid and too mired in strokery to stop and think about it.


> >Most importantly, twin independents with twin short hoses in the cave.
> >Maybe you would like to take this opportunity to tell the list why you guys
> >dont believe in manifolds or long hoses for cave diving.
>
>I never said we did not, but these things cost money, these things take
>time. There is no way that any of us would stop diving until our kit was
>exactly DIR and then restart from the begining. We are all still building up
>our gear as we need it, and have priorities other than manifolds and long
>hoses.
>
>This is a holdover from our training courses where everyone used, and had
>always used, independants with short hoses. The caves we dive either have no
>restrictions (Wondergat) or very short restrictions (Badplaas), we do not
>skooter anywhere.
>
>We are open to ideas which come from outside the community that we dive
>with, but we reserve the right to choose which to accept and which to think
>a little longer about.

How much time do you guys need? three years? Ten years? Come on, cut
the crap Larry. Besides, you might not have much more time to 'think' 
about those short hoses. You ever tried to do deco in doubles and 
slings, sharing gas on a short hose?

Larry, the only thing more surprising than your effrontery in 
attempting to convince us with that truly stupid gear-box analogy 
that you guys have any idea what you are doing is the ease with which 
you slope-forehead mutants are able to delude yourselves that there's 
some sense, order, plan or intelligence behind the shambling circfus 
that passes for South African technical diving.

If I were you - which is stretching the imagination about as far as it
will go - I would be inclined not to stick my head up on these lists.
You have nothing to offer except the usual transparent stupidity and 
unconvincing bullshit. And the only thing more pathetic than a troupe 
of dedicated strokes without a clue marching along to the sound of 
their own hubris is the guy out front carrying the flag.

rgrds     billyw

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