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Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:02:52 -0800
To: "Raymond G. Blaker" <frogman@wo*.nl*>
From: "Kevin Connell" <kevin@nw*.co*>
Subject: Re: Helium penetrates neoprene ???
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
the 1/2" hose is a gimmick.  You couldn't possibly out-breath a 3/8" hose.

At 05:29 PM 3/16/2000 +0100, you wrote:
>OK, I use an APEKS TX 100 as my primary reg, this uses a 1/2" hose but
>breathes like a dream (It's also a diaphram system), why should I go back to
>something like Scubapro with it's 3/8"hose. The only problem I have is that
>the 1/2" hose tends to float up, but a couple of little lead rings soon stop
>this. Comments please
>
>Regards
>
>Ray Blaker
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
>To: Simon Murray <simonm@ho*.co*.za*>
>Cc: Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; Lovan <LovanC@Tr*.co*.za*>
>Date: 15 March 2000 20:18
>Subject: Re: Helium penetrates neoprene ???
>
>
> >Simon, could you get this stroke to subscribe to techdiver - we have not
> >had anyone to fry in weeks.
> >
> >The best chance for neopreme to hold to any degree at all is the
> >commercial grade G231 stuff that has nitrogen bubbles in it
> >intentionally  in the manufacturing process. This mateial will compress
> >less than non-bubbled neompreme, and will rebound exceptionally well,
> >but still has a massive buoyancy swing. Only somebody who does not know
> >any better dives a neopreme dryuit of any kind.
> >
> >We use the G231 nmaterial for our hoods so that they do not stay crushed
> >and rebound at deco to keep us warm.
> >
> >The problem is diving is that you have an expensive , upscale sprot that
> >is taught by roofers and insects who are dumber than mushrooms and can't
> >get anything right. I saw an explanation of oxtox on the GUE list that
> >some guy got from one of the other agencies ( he threw it out for our
> >amusement) that was cause for Baker Acting whomever told it to him. What
> >amazes me is that the smart people believe the cockroaches and then go
> >so far as to repeat the slathering moronity that is taught to them by
> >the dive industry savants.
> >
> >This is yet one more example. What you ar "missing" , Simon, is just how
> >freaking stupid the dive "educators" really are. Good thing we have
> >these lists, or we'd all be Tai Chi breathing and taking deep air
> >classes in bondage wings , steel tanks with wetsuits, hemlets, square
> >lights, skin diving fins, neopreme drysuits, fucked up manifolds, tec
> >bs's, slobwinders, impropperly marked bottles, stroke gear configs,
> >stuffed hoses, Poseiden second stages, high speeed inflators, 1/2 inch
> >port regs, etc, etc.
> >
> >Simon Murray wrote:
> >>
> >> I had a conversation with a long term hardened stroke over the weekend
> >> and he told me that his non-crushed neoprene dry suit does not change
> >> its buoyancy characteristics as he goes deeper because the helium that
> >> he uses to inflate it penetrates the neoprene and stops it from
> >> crushing.
> >>
> >> Sounds like one of the best stroke stories I have ever heard, or am I
> >> completely missing something ?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Simon Murray
> >
> >
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  Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*>

  NW Labor Systems, Inc
  http://www.nwls.com

  Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
  (A thing is only worth what someone else
   is willing to pay for it)

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