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George, Thanks again for all the info and clearing up the football issue. I'll be showing up everyday at the pool and the info will be put to good use. Todd PS - Don't tell JJ that I am spreading a rumor that he played for FSU. He and Steve Spurrier would publically flog me as part of the halftime festivities in The Swamp if they they heard that. :) --- Trey <trey@ne*.co*> wrote: > Todd, '93 may be the lastest. I have the real old > one. You'll have to > read it yourself, it is too complicated for here. I > can tell you that he > leaves a few details out, like the REAL doses it > takes to make these > thing work, and that they will only improve your > output, not "correct" > it. Real drugs are required for that, and he is > against that. > > His main message is how to eat and train, and what > to be sure to get in > your diet. One thing I am sure of - showing up every > day is key. > > Jarrod played outside LB at UF for a ahile, I was a > defensive back, but > not at UF. JJ weighed about 220 when I met him, he > now is 5 pounds > lighter than me. I am within 8 pounds of what I > weighed when I was 18, > and still the same strength and speed, oddly enough. > Both of us cut the > weightlifting way back and went to pure cardio for a > long time, and JJ > became a vegetarisn and dropped a lot of the weight > that way. I like > looking the way I do , so keep the weight constant. > I played > professional Lacrosse for a long time after college > and then always ran, > and later got into Masters Swimming, so I have had a > lifetime of > constant activity which has paid off big time in my > health and fitness, > not to mention that you can not tell how old I am. > > Show up every day - I am sure of it. The real > physiology of this stuff > can be found in Gyton and Hall ( medical textbook ) > . Most of the sports > stuff is bullshit. The other place to get stellar > information is in on > the web pages of the drug mamufacturers as to what > does what. > > > Todd Baldi wrote: > > > > George, > > A few more more questions. Why do you say that > most > > men are screwed after 27. Is it due to endocrine > > production falling off? Why do Colgan's > supplements > > reccomendation help extend this? I am especially > > curious because my 28th birthday is in 8 months. > > > > I looked for Colgans Sports Nutrition book > yesterday > > at Barnes and Noble. They only had the one > published > > in 1993. Is there a newer edition than this? > > > > By the way I checked out two Masters programs > > yesterday. The schedule may involve me getting up > at > > 4 o'clock, catching two subways to get there by > five > > in the morning. I wont mind it in the summer but > in > > the winter when its -20 degrees and snowing > outside, > > my motivation to jump in a swimming pool at five > in > > the morning may be a little less than what it > normally > > is! > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > TB > > > > PS - Is it true that you and Jarrod used to play > for > > Florida State Univerisity Football team. I heard > you > > were a cornerback and JJ was an Outside > Linebacker. > > Any truth to this? > > > > --- Trey <trey@ne*.co*> wrote: > > > Todd, Colgan changes some of his tune in the new > > > addtion, as he was > > > clearly way out of the loop on modern geneticly > > > engineered drugs, and > > > way out of the loop on steroids. He obviously > has > > > never heard of the NFL > > > and what it takes to play there or in college > for > > > that matter. You can > > > see the inconsistencies in his writings on these > > > subjects vs what he > > > recommmends. His info on supplements is quite > good, > > > however. > > > > > > I can say this - the optimal age to use his > methods > > > is 25-30, older with > > > the right genetics, and the way to tell that is > if > > > you can do it anwyay, > > > you have the right genetics, and then you can > extend > > > that age way out > > > indefinitely. Most males are screwed after about > 27, > > > females last a lot > > > longer before their endocrine system shuts way > down. > > > > > > > > > Within those parameters, his stuff works. His > main > > > message that I took > > > to heart is to work out twice per day. > > > > > > As far as VO2 max, that is deceiving. I have a > huge > > > score because I have > > > a ridiculous strenght to weight ratio and can > > > tolerate work at near peak > > > output for extended periods of time, and those > > > "peaks" ar defined by > > > strenght, so these tests I can "force" by just > > > busting my ass. In most > > > people, the weight kills their score due to the > fact > > > that it contains a > > > lot of fat or bone weight, were as my weight is > > > entirely muscle so is > > > eintirely "producing", ie I can set the machines > at > > > ridiculous levels. > > > > > > A better personal test would be how much of your > max > > > running ( or biking > > > or swimming ) speed you can hold for an hour, > how > > > far your heart rate > > > will drop in on minute from 90% of its max, what > > > kind of recovery you > > > get from a hard workout, like can you repeat it > > > every day , and so > > > forth. The problem is that we all are different > and > > > can not do the same > > > things. For instance, I would not dare try rock > > > climbing for fear of > > > getting tired after I already got myself into a > bad > > > position. I would , > > > however, try to swim any distance with no > concern > > > about getting back. > > > > > > Todd Baldi wrote: > > > > > > > > G, > > > > > > > > Thanks for the response and info. I have read > > > > Colgan's Optimal Sports Nutrition about five > years > > > > ago. It is a great reference. I was wondering > > > what > > > > tests you have done. I know you have done the > VO2 > > > max > > > > test. Are there any others you reccomend? > > > > > > > > By the way, I have been incorporating a lot of > DIR > > > > into rock climbing. (My other hobby) I have > really > > > > been thinking out what is the easiest and most > > > > sensible way to rig my gear so I don't fly off > a > > > rock > > > > halfway up the mountain. > > > > > > > > TB > > > > > > > > --- Trey <trey@ne*.co*> wrote: > > > > > Todd, Masters Swimming is always conducted > in > > > > > constant temperature > > > > > pools, indoor in your case. We are outdoors, > but > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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