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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:25:12 -0500
From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: Todd Baldi <sandiegoaes@ya*.co*>
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Fitness and Excersize
Todd, Colgan changes some of his tune in the new addtion, as he was
clearly way out of the loop on modern geneticly engineered drugs, and
way out of the loop on steroids. He obviously has never heard of the NFL
and what it takes to play there or in college for that matter. You can
see the inconsistencies in his writings on these subjects vs what he
recommmends. His info on supplements is quite good, however.

I can say this - the optimal age to use his methods is 25-30, older with
the right genetics, and the way to tell that is if you can do it anwyay,
you have the right genetics, and then you can extend that age way out
indefinitely. Most males are screwed after about 27, females last a lot
longer before their endocrine system shuts way down. 

Within those parameters, his stuff works. His main message that I took
to heart is to work out twice per day.

As far as VO2 max, that is deceiving. I have a huge score because I have
a ridiculous strenght to weight ratio and can tolerate work at near peak
output for extended periods of time, and those "peaks" ar defined by
strenght, so these tests I can "force" by just busting my ass. In most
people, the weight kills their score due to the fact that it contains a
lot of fat or bone weight, were as my weight is entirely muscle so is
eintirely "producing", ie I can set the machines at ridiculous levels.

A better personal test would be how much of your max running ( or biking
or swimming ) speed you can hold for an hour, how far your heart rate
will drop in on minute from 90% of its max, what kind of recovery you
get from a hard workout, like can you repeat it every day , and so
forth. The problem is that we all are different and can not do the same
things. For instance, I would not dare try rock climbing for fear of
getting tired after I already got myself into a bad position. I would ,
however, try to swim any distance with no concern about getting back.

Todd Baldi wrote:
> 
> G,
> 
> Thanks for the response and info.  I have read
> Colgan's Optimal Sports Nutrition about five years
> ago. It is a great reference.  I was wondering what
> tests you have done.  I know you have done the VO2 max
> test.  Are there any others you reccomend?
> 
> By the way, I have been incorporating a lot of DIR
> into rock climbing. (My other hobby) I have really
> been thinking out what is the easiest and most
> sensible way to rig my gear so I don't fly off a rock
> halfway up the mountain.
> 
> TB
> 
> --- Trey <trey@ne*.co*> wrote:
> > Todd, Masters Swimming is always conducted in
> > constant temperature
> > pools, indoor in your case. We are outdoors, but are
> > in Ft Lauderdale,
> > Florida. There are 48,000 Masters swimmers in the US
> > - it is a great
> > program - get into it. Running and biking are
> > obviously harder to do
> > other than in the gym ( treadmills and spinning )
> > other than seasonally
> > up there - we have a big advantage here. I would
> > look into a gym that
> > has spinning and high speed ( 9 mph and higher )
> > treadmills. The idea is
> > to have several cardio programs that work diferent
> > muscles and joints so
> > you can do one or more every day without getting
> > damage. Some weights
> > are also a good idea for strength. Masters is
> > coached, spinning is
> > taught, local runs and bike shop rides have plenty
> > of experts who will
> > teach you the techniques.
> >
> > Otherwise, Colgan's sports book is a good one for
> > supplements, food ,
> > training  and such, and the usual Gyton and Hall
> > textbook of medical
> > physiology is the best for the real thing, and
> > otherwise there is not
> > much to it - just show up every day. I don't use
> > much of anything, but I
> > work out twice per day.
> >
> >
> > Todd Baldi wrote:
> > >
> > > George,
> > >
> > > I was wondering if you can reccomend any books,
> > > internet lists, etc. for fitness and training
> > methods.
> > > Currently I am hitting the gym five days a week
> > and I
> > > am planning on throwing in a Masters swim as soon
> > as
> > > it warms up.  (Too cold to swim in Lake Michigan
> > in
> > > the winter)
> > >
> > > What would you reccomend for a source as far as
> > > training methods, eating guidlines, recovery
> > > techniques, and any supplement guidelines.  I seem
> > to
> > > remember GUE having a reccomended reading list at
> > one
> > > point but I can't seem to find it.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > >
> > > TB
> > >
> > > PS -  What does Trey mean?  Is it a nickname?
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