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>>> [Incidentally list, if anyone knows of a source of elbows suitable for
the
> DR Jnr wing, I would be grateful to receive it, since I will continue to
use
> this wing for no deco single tank stuff)]<<
Have your Halcyon dealer order them - Halcyon sells them as replacement
parts. It's around $20 US, IIRC.
Rich L
----- Original Message -----
From: Taylor, John <john.taylor@cs*.co*.uk*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 8:48 PM
Subject: RE: Wing deflation problem
> David,
>
> We also use Apeks DS4's, based on your recommendation about a year ago.
They
> are great regs, and we now have 6 between us! I can't recall the hoses
being
> routed as you say, and buddy was not using the pull dump.
>
> I normally use a DR jnr wing for twins/nitrox, and the Classic for
> stages+twins/Trimix, whilst buddy uses the Classic for twins/nitrox only
(at
> the moment!). We both don't like the pull dumps, and it's difficult to get
> the replacement elbows (or any other DR spares for that matter) in HK (and
I
> have had no luck by e-mail/Fax/Phone to the US either!).
>
> However, we now have a Halcyon dealer in HK (I think as of last DEMA), and
> have just bought Halcyon 55lb explorer wings, which should hopefully do us
> for all our twin tank diving. These, as you know, don't have the pull
dumps,
> so at least we are now eliminating that potential source of trouble.
>
> [Incidentally list, if anyone knows of a source of elbows suitable for the
> DR Jnr wing, I would be grateful to receive it, since I will continue to
use
> this wing for no deco single tank stuff)]
>
> Thanks once again for your help.
>
> JT
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Shimell, David (shimell) [SMTP:shimell@se*.co*]
> > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 6:13 PM
> > To: Taylor, John; 'techdiver@aquanaut.com'
> > Subject: RE: Wing deflation problem
> >
> > John
> >
> > I use a Diverite Original wing, with a truck inner tube liner, the
> > original
> > inner bladder cover, then the bladder itself. I have found a very few
> > times
> > only at the end of a dive when there is a delay in the wing dumping from
> > the
> > convoluted hose. Since this was then end of the dive, there was little
gas
> > remaining in the wing at this point. Not a big problem nor a frequent
one.
> >
> > Reading your email caused me to think about this. I use the superb
Apeks
> > US4
> > first stages and the only problem I have with them was a very minor
> > complaint
> > about routing the HP hose. I had the backup hose behind the wing and
the
> > HP
> > over the wing. This caused the wing to be pushed forward and there
being
> > some difficulty in slotting the wing between the cylinder and the HP
hose.
> > I
> > have recently changed the way I do this now and am now very happy with
it.
> > Both HP and backup go over the wing and the whole lot sits more
> > comfortably
> > and with less stress on the hoses and wing. The wing on the left hand
> > side
> > now sits more comfortably against the cylinder neck with no pinching or
> > tight
> > angles. I dived it this weekend at Stoney and had about 1 Kg of lift
left
> > and on this occasion had no problem dumping the wing - not a
statistically
> > significant observation since the slow dumping is a very occasional
thing.
> >
> > Now, it occurred to me that the effect of the HP hose one side and the
> > backup
> > hose the other side of the wing and the angle the wing had to be placed
> > in,
> > partly also due to the position of the bladder-convoluted hose
connection
> > pressing on the cylinder neck may have caused a pinching effect on the
> > wing
> > which may slow the migration of the gas from the left side of the wing
to
> > the
> > dump hose.
> >
> > So, after this long story, I would check this out to see if it is a
> > possible
> > cause for your buddy.
> >
> > David Shimell
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> > office as above
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Taylor, John [SMTP:john.taylor@cs*.co*.uk*]
> > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 1:22 AM
> > To: 'techdiver@aquanaut.com'
> > Subject: Wing deflation problem
> >
> > I had a problem recently where a buddy was unable to dump air from her
> > wing.
> > The wing in question was a DiveRite Classic wing, the buddy was diving
> > wetsuit and twin AL80s.
> >
> > Is there some inherent problem with wings in general which can cause
this
> > problem under certain circumstances?
> >
> > If not, is this a known problem with DR wings and are the Halcyon wings
> > any
> > better (in this respect)?
> > --
> > John Taylor
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> >
> >
> >
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