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From: "Paltz, Art" <Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*>
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: computers? 1 depth gauge, 2 time keepers, your mother in law.
     ..
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:41:43 -0500
Hey, wait a minute!  My Cochran is perfect for the first 10 minutes of a
dive!  Makes really cool beeping sounds when programming in the gasses too!
We'll not right now because it's back to them for the third time!  Used to
make a great bottom timer before this last crap out!

Art.

	-----Original Message-----
	From:	Scott [SMTP:scottk@hc*.co*]
	Sent:	Wednesday, March 01, 2000 12:21 PM
	To:	techdiver@aquanaut.com
	Subject:	Re: computers? 1 depth gauge, 2 time keepers, your
mother in law...

	15) Cochran's.

	Scott

	----- Original Message -----
	From: "Thomas Tukker" <silent@cu*.ne*>
	To: "Kevin Connell" <kevin@nw*.co*>; <ben@wi*.co*>;
	<techdiver@aquanaut.com>; "Jarrod Jablonski" <JJ@gu*.co*>
	Cc: <quest@gu*.co*>; <trey@ne*.co*>
	Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 8:39 AM
	Subject: Re: computers? 1 depth gauge, 2 time keepers, your mother
in law...


	> 14) They beep.
	>
	>
	>
	>
	> > 1) Dive computers tend to induce significant levels of diver
dependance,
	> > eliminating the awareness so common and essential to all diving
but
	> > particularly obvious when diving tables
	> >
	> > 2) Dive computers do not allow proper planning as divers can't
properly
	> > "study" the impact of various mixture and decompression choices.
	> >
	> > 3) Dive computers are of very limited educational benefit as
they do not
	> > induce questioning, or proper planning discussions as can be
found with
	> > tables and most particularly with deco programs
	> >
	> > 4) Dive computer programmers often play games with computational
process
	> so
	> > that they can take insulate themselves from the risk of taking
largely
	> > square profile data and utilizing it on a multilevel dive. These
games
	> tend
	> > to result in odd and often ridiculous levels of conservation.
	> >
	> > 5) Dive computers are expensive and in some cases leave divers
with
	> limited
	> > resources carrying equipment that is of far less benefit than
other
	> > equipment that may have been purchased.
	> >
	> > 6) Dive computers significantly limit the likelihood that divers
will
	> track
	> > their residual nitrogen groups.
	> >
	> > 7) Dive computers do not allow for Helium diving in any formats
but the
	> > bulkiest and most questionable format.
	> >
	> > 8) Dive computers will often generate longer decompressions than
could
	be
	> > figured by an astute, well educated diver with experience.
	> >
	> > 9) Dive computers often create confusion by giving the user to
much
	> useless
	> > information, sometimes even obscuring depth and time in favor of
	blinking
	> > CNS and/or deco limitations.
	> >
	> > 10) Dive computers can become very difficult to properly if a
deco stop
	> has
	> > been violated. Some computers lock up completely while others
just beep
	or
	> > generate erroneous and distracting information. Divers using
mixed
	gasses
	> > are likely to often violate computer profiles.
	> >
	> > 11) Dive computers do not allow for the educated diver to
properly
	modify
	> > their decompression to account for advancing knowledge such as
the use
	of
	> > deeper stops in a decompression profile.
	> >
	> > 12) Dive computers do not offer divers as much flexibility in
the
	> > generation of profiles with varying conservation. For example
the right
	> mix
	> > would allow 100 min at 60 vs 60 at 60 but I might prefer to do
one or
	the
	> > other and indeed might like a compromise. Computers confuse this
issue
	by
	> > not providing divers with the proper information.
	> >
	> > 13) Dive computers users often ignore table proficiency and
therefore do
	> > not learn tables properly. When confronted with a situation
where they
	> > can't dive the computer (failure, loss, travel etc) these divers
are at
	a
	> > serious handicap.
	> > Jarrod Jablonski
	> >
	> > President-
	> > Global Underwater Explorers www.gue.com
	> > CEO Extreme Exposure www.extreme-exposure.com
	> > VP Halcyon Manufacturing www.halcyon.net, www.browniedive.com,
	> www.tankfill.com
	> >
	> > Global Underwater Explorers www.gue.com
	> > GUE is a non-profit educational, research, and exploratory
organization
	> > with hundreds of dedicated members around the world.
	> >
	> > Extreme Exposure www.extreme-exposure.com
	> > Extreme Exposure and Halcyon manufacturing produce some of the
scuba
	> > industries most novel and robust diving equipment designed by
many of
	> > diving's most active explorers.
	> >
	> >
	> >
	> >
	> >
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