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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:22:06 -0500
From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*, Jarrod Jablonski <JJ@gu*.co*>
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: stroke tee shirt /dive girl mag
Tom, is this what you meant by JJ "diagrees with me"? What is really
funny about this is that nobody but JJ , myself, and those on our team
who have seen the other side of hell understand any of this, but then
look who has the end of the line everywhere, look who always gets it
done with no exucuses, look at who the common denominator is in all of
this for the last ten years as others have come and gone ( as JJ points
out ), and ask yourself "Why?".

Then , and I know this will really piss you (all ) off, my opinion is
that anyone who has not seen the other side of hell has NO BUSINESS
teaching it. That , my friend, does not leave much room for many of you
at the table, so to speak, certainly not the 5000 odd so called "tech"
insrtructors out there.

JJ and I are of one mind on diving , and the reason is we know what is
out there and have done it together successfully for ten years where
NOBODY esle has been able to do jack shit, and there are no excuses for
that other than stroke, stroke, and more stroke, and actually, both of
us are grateful for that, and at the same time trying to change it.

If Jablonsksi agreed with you or Gilliam on your "teachings", he would
not have started GUE, and if the rest of the world did not feel the same
way about much of it, he would have no customers, but the truth is you
will attract the Personal Preference crowd,  and we will get the elite. 


Jarrod Jablonski wrote:
> 
> Tom et al,
>I may not agree with all of G's politics or personality but then again >I have
never met anyone with whom I did always agree. Yet when it comes >to being in
the back of some cave at 300' politics just don't seem >relevant.

>Best,
>JJ

full texgt of JJ's comments below> 



> I thought that since several people seemed curious about  my opinion on
> this that there must be some confusion.
> 
> I don't particularly understand why people choose some of the equipment
> configurations that I see in diving but I recognize that this will remain a
> fact of life. It does not really bother me but I do not want people to
> imagine that I don't believe there to be an easy and sensible way to
> configure equipment. Perhaps in my desire to be fair and professional about
> my convictions I failed to state them clearly. It seems self-evident to me
> that the Hogarthian style that we evolved into a more comprehensive DIR is
> the one that makes sense to me. I know George feels the same way and
> imagines that people should hear about this whether they want to or not<g>.
> Personally I think if people want my opinion they can listen to what I am
> saying, ask me questions, or read our web pages etc but I think that both
> of us do what seems right to us personally.
> 
> I do know that there has been a huge resistance to some of our ideas and an
> allegiance to the status quo. For example, when I first started teaching
> most of my "mentors" were very careful to be sure that I understood how
> inappropriate it would be to indicate that there might be a preferred way
> to configure their equipment. None of that ever made any sense to me at
> all. There was and to some extent is still a fair degree of resistance to
> the DIR style. George has helped create an atmosphere where instructors can
> be challenged and where DIR has been heard. Much of this process has not
> been the way I would have proceeded. Maybe worse, maybe more effective.
> Maybe there is a need for both of our styles, maybe one, or maybe none. In
> the end it is for all of you to decide for yourself what you want and how
> you respond.  I do think that there is a lot of reforming to do in the
> world of diving and scuba education and hopefully some of these efforts
> will have an ultimately positive impact.
> 
> George and I have been friends and diving partners for more than 10 years
> and together we took the early ideas of Main and Gavin to what I feel was
> their natural conclusion. We have had our share of arguments and
> disagreements but they were personal and political and usually somewhat
> beside the point. We do not need to debate equipment or configuration
> because these tenets seem self-evident to both of us. Truth be told it is
> not rocket science. We could pretend there was some magic behind these
> decisions but then that defeats the purpose of DIR and what each of us is
> trying to accomplish- each in our own way. I may not agree with all of G's
> politics or personality but then again I have never met anyone with whom I
> did always agree. Yet when it comes to being in the back of some cave at
> 300' politics just don't seem relevant.
> 
> Best,
> JJ
> 
> JJ states" "two things will undoubtedly remain constant there will always
> be new equipment for people to obsess over, and there will > always be
> people arguing over how that equipment should be configured Your > response
> to these arguments should be based on your actual needs, and on the
> requirements of your diving environment." Seems to me that JJ's statement
> agrees with most of us and is more in line with Bill Gavins "have an open
> mind and always seek perfection" in contrast to yours so where is the one
> mind bit? It would appear that JJ and Bill encourage people to think to be
> logical to try to improve them selves not blindly follow a hypocrite
> 
> Jarrod Jablonski
> 
> President-
> Global Underwater Explorers www.gue.com
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> VP Halcyon Manufacturing www.halcyon.net, www.browniedive.com,
www.tankfill.com
> 
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> 
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