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Igor Vrhovec ha scritto: > First half of your mail is total bullshit!!!! > > Deep air coral cutter? Show me any coral cutter that did not work on > air 15 years ago! > 100 m dive club? Where did you get that? And how can someone cause > someone's death not even knowing him? > > And as you've written: you were out of town for holidays......... > > Regards, Igor Igor, if it isn't true I apologize. That's what many slovenian divers and instructors told me about Tomo. They told me even of another "special" dive club, something like a Pajams Dive Club linked with deep air bravados. I have no difficulty in beliving that this is another BS. I know very well how false can be our ambient, and I didn't know Tomo other than by his fame. I know that in his life Tomo had to do many body recoverys, the last being last year after one of your chief policemen killed himself in a deep air cave dive at 80+ meters. I'm sure that Tomo knew very well how one can die under water, and that he faced that kind of situations many times during his life. I think he realized very well what was happening and that he fought to survive till the last breath held. I think that narcosis and little cave experience made him violate the thirds, that narcosis and the use of a relatively new equipment caused him not to be so suspicious to chek the manifold, that the PG on the primary was fatal, that solo diving can very easily be fatal, and ultimately, that it was his wrong day. His death didn't make me happy, be sure of that. I dive a lot as well, and know how easy one can die for some series of errors or another, or simply because it's your wrong day. That neither an uncommon diver, who certainly was Tomo, can survive to his errors for an entire life time makes me sad. I'm sorry for having hurt the memory of a best friend of yours, safe diving Mario. > > Ciao Borut, and thanks for your message. I will remember Tomo for the person and > the divers you described. > Safe diving > Mario > > Borut Korosin ha scritto: > > > Zdravo Mario, > > > > The story of the "100m club": > > > > Tomo was in the past really a coral cutter and very good at it. At > > that time it meant deep air to depths of about 100m. Because he was > > disappointed with the attitude of Slovenian diving federation ge > > seceded - stopped doing CMAS courses and became the first PADI > > instructor in Slovenia. Soon he had the biggest diving club in > > Slovenia - Norik Sub (i am allso a member of it). Mostly because of > > the way he taught diving - without all the macho bullshit but very > > realistically. During all my courses with him he was quick to > > point out all my mistakes in no uncertain words. After training with > > John Orlowski and becoming a NACD instructor Tomo dropped air and > > started using mixes on deeper exploration. (Deeper for him was deeper > > than 50-60m). > > The courses were cheaper and quicker than CMAS because PADI doesn't > > require medical examination (and that is expensive here) > > So anyway the story of the "100m dive club" was started by his > > adversaries and soon every death was "his". But that was as i said BS. > > He did participate in quite a few of body retrievals, especially in > > caves. > > The truth is that in diving circles here the quality of a diver is > > still often measured by how deep he went. Stupid but true. > > > > lp, > > > > Borut > > > > mailto:borut@le*.si* > > > > Friday, February 18, 2000, 21:37:02, you wrote: > > > > M> Borut Korosin ha scritto: > > > > >> > > >> The story of the "100m club" is BS. > > > > M> Borut, I'm sure you know this better than me. That's what an other slovenian > padi instructor told me that year when this and other deep air > > M> fatalities happened among slovenian divers in north Adriatic. Anyway, I > apologize if it isn't true. > > M> BTW, I think you have replaied to me only, and not to the list. > > M> Regards, Mario > > > > >> > > >> The pair that drowned two years ago were from another dive club from another > city. > > >> They were found in 85m + on air near Plavnik, Croatia. The boyfriend was > older and much > > >> more "experienced" diving deep air. > > >> > > >> lp, > > >> > > >> Borut Korosin > > >> > > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: Cave fatality in Italy > Author: ntnar@ti*.it* at PO_INT > Date: 18.02.2000 15:51 > > The victim was a very experienced deep air coral cutter, padi > instructor, running his own "100m. dive club" in Lubjana, Slovenia. He > caused four or five deaths in the past few years between his OWD students, which > attempted to satisfy the "requisites" required to be > admitted in this very exclusive club. A pair of these were a 18 years old girl > and her 17 years old boyfriend, OWD certified the month > before, both drowned in a 100+ meters air dive two years ago. > He was about 40. I don't know if he was a iantd istructor or what else. I don't > know much of the incident because i was out of town for > holidays. > > Here is what i know from a friend of mine, who recovered the body: > It was a cave dive in the Antro di Bagnoli, in 50 meters (165 ft) depth, with > very bad viz., about 0,5-2 meters, and about 10°C. This cave > is virtually unexplored cause there are a lot of tight restrictions, the > beginning part being only 70cm wide. He wanted to add line to a > 200 meters penetration he setted during a previous dive, the week before. > He was, "obviously", breathing air, and was a solo dive. > He wore a trilaminate dry suit, a "technical BC" and a manifolded steel doubles > at 300 bar, > He had one depth gauge only, but mounted on the primary first stage. > Apparently, he didn't open the manifold knob before the dive. > He was found drowned, with one tank completely empty, and the other with 280 > bar, about 30 meters before a deco bottle on the way back to > the exit of the cave. > That's all. > > Mario Arena > Trieste - Italy > > Bill ha scritto: > > > I heard that a cave diver drowned in Italy. He was an IANTD (at least) > Instructor trained by John Orlowski. Any body know any more?? > > > > -- > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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