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From: "John Walker" <techdive@ea*.ne*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: 59 reasons you strokes should shut up and listen
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 15:50:48 -0800
   Tim I can't see were you figure I was speaking ill of any of these
divers. It was used as a wake up call to us all.  One thing seems certain,
putting an real persons name to a story makes it real.  Giving statistic in
numbers makes it just that, numbers.  By the way some of these people were
my friends and others were acquaintances and this list really hits home to
me.  Don't even think I enjoy this list.

   John Walker



----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Humphrey <Tim@Hu*.ne*>
To: <john.r.strohm@Bi*.Co*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: 59 reasons you strokes should shut up and listen


> Don't be simple John, I am well aware this is a list of very dead divers
and
> I also do not disagree with anything either you nor the others guys were
> saying about there demise. Standards of instruction and tuition are
> appalling and the whole issue should be tightened up by law if necessary.
My
> complaint was the use of their names to quote "shut strokes up and
listen".
> Call me old-fashioned if you like but in my neck of the woods we don't
speak
> ill of the dead regardless of how stupid they were when living.
> Regards Tim.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <john.r.strohm@Bi*.Co*>
> To: <Tim@Hu*.ne*>
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 1:04 AM
> Subject: Re: 59 reasons you strokes should shut up and listen
>
>
> > >In the passed four months that I have been listening in to this list,
> this
> > >has to rate the sickest post yet from, what must be, a very sad person.
> >
> > Tim, you CLEARLY don't understand that list.
> >
> > That is a list of people who DIED because they were Doing It Wrong.
> >
> > Doing It Wrong doesn't just make you look stupid.  It doesn't just get
you
> > laughed at by the WKPPers and their adherents.
> >
> > Doing It Wrong gets you KILLED.
> >
> > These are people who didn't listen, or who listened to the wrong
sources,
> > and now they are DEAD.
> >
> > Now, the reason George keeps harping on it is twofold:  First, he has
had
> > to do too many body recoveries, on people who were Doing It Wrong, and
he
> > is heartily sick of it.  (Ask him to describe what Jane Ornstein looked
> > like after the crabs had been nibbling on her for a few days.  Have a
barf
> > bag handy; you'll need it.)  Unfortunately, he is the one who gets
called,
> > because he is about the only one in the area who can handle it.  Second,
> > recently, he has started to see the message taking hold in the industry
> and
> > in the diving community at large.
> >
> > What part of DEAD don't you understand?
> >
> >
>
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