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From: "Pete Wallace" <hwallac1@ta*.rr*.co*>
To: "Steve Orrell" <subaq@be*.fr*.co*.uk*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: inflexible thinking
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 21:59:21 -0500
OK Steve,

Enough is enough! I for one am tied of your pompous self righteous
posturing!
Christ, you are so full of so righteous self indignation it is nauseating!

Now listen and listen well, people are dying because of poor instruction and
the generalised bullshit that is provided as "expert opinon" on these lists.
You don't have to like George, and I for one could not care a fuckin'
so-called "jot" if you do or do not. He has walked the walk and can talk the
talk. In my opinon, unless you can prove otherwise, you can do neither.

YOU HEREBY STAND CHALLENGED!

Please state your credentials and diving experience forthwith. If you desire
to play, prove you are worthy and a state either your academic credentials
or your real life diving experience that qualifies you to comment. If you
can not, then please SHUT THE F*CK UP. declare yourself a self proclaimed
idiot and disengage...

With absolutely not an iota of respect until you can prove it...

P Wallace


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Orrell [mailto:subaq@be*.fr*.co*.uk*]
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 7:02 PM
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: unflexible thinking


Hi John Grogan,

 >> the things I mention to him, that I have picked up from this list, he
 >> listens to avidly... How many others have been driven away because they
 >> don't want the aggravation?
 >
 >Steve,
 >Sounds just like cutting off your nose to spite your face.  I think your
 >friend is the close-minded victim.

I would agree entirely, which is why I keep "chipping away" at him (and
will continue to do so).

The reason I mentioned it was because it amply illustrated something that
had been mentioned to me just a few weeks ago. Namely that it tends to be
forgotten that there's a full a range of personality types and that one of
these is a group of people who are happy to go out and "do", will listen to
advice, discuss, etc., but when it comes to conflict they actively move
away from it. They lose out when it comes to new ideas (as might be
available from this list) simply because they choose to avoid conflict...
doesn't mean they don't want to learn, just that they don't like their
teeth pulled out of their backsides if the make a mistake... Once this
personality type had been pointed out to me I immediately recognised the
same in half a dozen others... good, active *keen* divers, just
non-aggressive that's all.

That is the pity of it all... at some time or other, to further involve
more and more people (in discussion if nothing else), a different approach
is going to be needed because at the moment a lot of folk are lost to these
new ideas.

Rgds,

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