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George One big lie you always spout is Exley calling me mouth that is a lie and you know it. But the truth has never mattered to you or stood in your way. By your own admission on this list on more than one occasion you believe in cheating and lying if it helps WIN a point or a competition To my knowledge you have recovered one body in your life Yes IANTD has had three incidents in its history that resulted in fatalities, and that is three more than we are anyone would like to have. George shit happens and as our insurance agent told us many years ago it is not will it happen but when . GUE and WKPP will have accidents if enough people participate as this is a sport and people participate and human error and environmental occurrences do take place. These may not be the fault of the organization or of a person. trey@ne*.co* (Trey) Subject: Re: 59 reasons you strokes should shut up and listen This list was "doing it wrong" in one way or another, some unfortunately at the hands of scum instructors and scum agencies ( oh, sorry for the invective) - only not any more , and obviously, it did NOT work for them, obviously it was NOT in "fun". (George in fact as you know wKPP has had accidents, look at) Sherwood Schiles ( one of the more senior members of WKPP and a long time personal friend of Parker ) Bill McFadden ( deep air while doing a survey, Bill Gavin (on gas)tried to rescue him, but Bill's narcosis or whatever prevented it) Robbie McGuirre (failure to label tanks) I do not know if Robbie was formally a member of the wKPP or just diving with the wKPP although the dive he died on was not a WKPP dive but a personal dive Parker Turner (due to environment/cave collapse and he was not doing anything wrong) You know you are great at barking out insults and bullying remarks on email. funny what a mellow pussy cat you become in real life when around people. Lets see over the years you have threatened to shoot Tony Satterfield. but in person was meek as a sheep when around him, each time you see me in person you act like my buddy. At one time I even thought you were until others told me what you said behind my back and of course on email, you have threatened many people and each time when meeting them in public become quite humble. Seems to me you are the one with the mouth. and a wee bit spineless. George you have always been the one to start the badmouthing. As a rule I simply avoid you. because . I do not badmouth WKPP. But when you elect to pass out personal insults sometimes it is fun to throw some of your BS back at YOU especially your misinformation. however even though it is tempting I simply cannot force myself to stoop to as low of a level as you like to play. I have explained what we do and why we do it in many publications, text books periodicals and presentations over the years. you still did not respond to how you and JJ are of one mind so again Lets compare George you say do it your way or you are a stroke . do it your way with no exceptions, do it your way without question, do it your way or be yelled at, cursed at and badgered for weeks months or even years JJ states" "two things will undoubtedly remain constant there will always be new equipment for people to obsess over, and there will > always be people arguing over how that equipment should be configured Your > response to these arguments should be based on your actual needs, and on the requirements of your diving environment." Seems to me that JJ's statement agrees with most of us and is more in line with Bill Gavins "have an open mind and always seek perfection" in contrast to yours so where is the one mind bit? It would appear that JJ and Bill encourage people to think to be logical to try to improve them selves not blindly follow a hypocrite George unlike JJ and many members of the WKPP, you like the traits they have and that I respect these include honor, honesty, respect, dignity etc etc.But you just do not measure up on any of these traits Actually George you have done a great deal to promote IANTD just your charming personality has been adequate to have many seek out training from IANTD. So please do keep up your good work. This will help us develop divers who THINK IT THROUGH and then DO IT CORRECTLY and understand why they are doing it in the best way for them? Again in closing JJ states" "two things will undoubtedly remain constant there will always be new equipment for people to obsess over, and there will > always be people arguing over how that equipment should be configured Your > response to these arguments should be based on your actual needs, and on the requirements of your diving environment." Seems to me that JJ's statement agrees with most of us and is more in line with Bill Gavins "have an open mind and always seek perfection" in contrast to yours so where is the one mind bit? It would appear that JJ and Bill encourage people to think to be logical to try to improve them selves not blindly follow a hypocrite. Maybe someday you will adopt such an attitude yourself. As usual it has been humorous communicating with you, and an enjoyable distraction. Respectfully yours, Tom Mount CEO IANTD World HQ http://www.iantd.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*> To: Tom Mouth <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*> Cc: a n <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 2:40 PM Subject: Re: stroke tee shirt /dive girl mag > Mouth, besides being an uneducated , dyslexic idiot, you are also > incapable of getting anything right, and then you just plain > misrepresent everything else, whether intentionally or due to your low > IQ - especially when it involves me. > > You have badmouthed me for years, and the funny part is you could not in > your best day even comprehend anything I do, let alone do it. > > Now, I am sick of hearing your shit. The fact is that you have been > nothing but a scrwup from day one. Your agency has embraced every stupid > thing it could, you have enlisted the bottom of the barrel in it , in my > opinion ( fortunately there is now an alternative to your nonsense and > stroke collection), and you are now paying the price for that in terms > of lawsuits. > > Next time I am out looking for the dead bodies of the people killed in > IANTD classes, I will remember what a disgusting spinelsss scumbag you > really are because you do not have the balls ot do what its right, to > correct obvious mistakes until taken to the woodshed or sued, and I > sicerely hope you lose every last cent that you have screwed the world > out of with that agency, and trust me you will, because what goes around > comes around, and you badly deserve it. It is one thing to make a > mistake, it is another to cover it up and repeat it over and over. > > By the way ,when you and the "good old days" goobers ( back when Exley > named you Tom "Mouth" ) were setting "records" it was either deep air or > some lame cave dive like Peacock. When I do it no amount of equipment, > technolgy , time or condidition can even touch it, and you can't figure > out why, despite the fact that I outline every detail of it each time. > You can cry all you want over your failed strokes, but it is not my > fault - they like you , "know better" ( although like you they never did > shit). > > In doing these things and trying to prevent death, I have lost my > patience for strokes like you - so yes, it is my way or the highway, but > then my track record is a tad better than yours, and everyone knows it, > but I can explain WHY we do what we do, you can not make sense of > anything you do. > > One of these day you are going to learn your lesson with me - that > lesson is lose my name from your vocabulary, the name of the WKPP, and > anything else to do with me or us, and tell your stroke buddies to do > the same. Diving is moving on without all of you , thank God, and it is > no mistake that we are the impetus for that. > > > Tom Mouth wrote: > > > > George > > > > As far as JJ is concerned I just posted his published configuration section > > fro the IANTD technical Encyclopedia and his concluding statements whether > > or not it is or is not of one mind with you I could care less. It is wha > > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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