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----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael J. Black" <mjblackmd@ya*.co*> To: <MMikeodin@ao*.co*> Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 6:10 PM Subject: Re: Oxygen Limits > It would be revealing indeed if MHK or Scott, who are obsessed > with humiliating me, could find ANY statement I made about pony > mix and reprint the ENTIRE statement here, so that people can > judge for themselves (not some phrase taken out of context, but > the entire post). Here ya go. I dont have time today to do the entire search, but I will later. Its all on Dejanews, and the thread started with a question about what mix to put in your pony bottle. Then mutated into an article by Dr. Bennet. You are dead meat MJB. I am going to take a personal interest in slapping the shit out of you with your own ignorance. I dont have time to waste on cheesedicks like you, but this time I am going to make an exception. You are *so* worthy of a few hours of my time. Scott Following are the pearls of wisdom from the indomintable MJBMD: From: mjblackmd@my*.co* Newsgroups: rec.scuba Subject: Re: Dr. Bennett's Nitrox article Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 15:24:40 GMT Because all the wrecks I dive with an EAN40 pony are within recreational depths (less than 130ffw), and most of the wrecks are well above this, certainly their superstructures are. When I dive wrecks below 130ffw, I carry a different pony, but these dives are uncommon for me. I can use the EAN40 as a deco mix if an unplanned profile develops, or breathe pure O2 at the surface, which I also carry in my boats. I don't dive doubles because I can barely crawl up my boat ladder(s) with my usual rig, especially in rolling seas (and I am in v.g. shape), and neither can my usual buddies. Now if I had a davit for lifting... Regards, MJB From: mjblackmd@my*.co* Newsgroups: rec.scuba Subject: Re: Dr. Bennett's Nitrox article Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 23:15:59 GMT You distorted the facts, and it is VERY TRUE that this needs to be cleared up. I do not PLAN any dive to pO2 1.9. I often carry a pony bottle with EAN40 and NEVER use it. It is there for bailout only. Most wrecks I dive are in 130ffw or less. I do not PLAN to breathe my pony at this depth, but if I have to I will, and I know to get the hell outa there. My PLAN calls for breathing air. From: mjblackmd@my*.co* Newsgroups: rec.scuba Subject: Re: Dr. Bennett's Nitrox article Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 21:25:50 GMT Very true. Now let me clear up something about pO2's. Do not exceed established guidelines. Do not PLAN any dive to exceed a pO2 of 1.6 for any length of time. As Dr. Bennett suggests in his editorial, we all should probably lower the pO2 limit further, much further. The pony bottle mix thread got so freakin' distorted by some of you, that it should be trashed in its entirety. I do not advocate anything above 1.6, and in the unlikely event I got trapped with a higher mix, I know what I'm dealing with. That does not equate with telling others to exceed safe limits. From: mjblackmd@my*.co* Newsgroups: rec.scuba Subject: Re: Dumb question... what does DIR stand for? Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 18:38:11 GMT DIR stands for Dogmatic Idealists Ranting. Although the acronym was coined by George Irvine, a Florida cave diver, to stand for Doing It Right, the scuba industry now recognizes that it represents a small group of self-styled elitists who preach a system of diving that is intolerant of any other system or personal preferences. While the concept of a single, unvarying system is sound in theory, the main proponents of DIR are so verbally abusive to others, that their message, primarily conveyed by the internet, is lost in all the noise. Their inflexible gear configuration includes diving with a bottom timer only (no computer), SPG (no console), Scubapro jetfins only, safety harness consisting of a single strap threaded through the BC (no quick release buckles), double tanks preferred to single tank, plus other limitations including no solo diving whatsoever. DIR divers fancy themselves as having an enviable safety record, when in fact there is little data to support this notion. They tend to dive beyond recreational limits and in reality expose themselves to much greater risks, and therefore more likely accidents, as they push the diving envelope. While a few proponents of DIR are polite, and have much to offer, the verbally abusive proponents, including George Irvine himself, have tarnished DIR permanently and the system will likely never become mainstream in scuba because of this. MJB From: mjblackmd@my*.co* Newsgroups: rec.scuba Subject: Re: Pony Mix? Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 15:48:18 GMT David, Scott had such a tantrum that he ran crying to George Irvine on this, implying that I plan my dives to pO2 1.9, completely false. Boy, talk about grabbing the ball and running with it. Amazing how these threads sometimes evolve into useless garbage. The filter button, or kill file, sure comes in handy at times. Regards, Mike From: mjblackmd@my*.co* Newsgroups: rec.scuba Subject: Re: Pony Mix? Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 04:57:28 GMT David and Briny, You are wasting time arguing with Scott, who thinks he is DIR's poster boy and therefore is permitted to speak like DIR's real poster boy, George Irvine. Unlike George, Scott has never posted anything useful or informative. The swearing is impressive, but that's about all. Personal preference, which can include a pony bottle, is something we all have the right to choose. If you look back in this thread, the query was about what mix to put in a pony bottle. When I answered EAN40 in a 30cf pony, all hell broke loose, and I lost interest. In fact now I wish I hadn't peeked back, but noticed your two reasonable posts. BTW it's good to see you over here and back on techdiver, David. MJB From: mjblackmd@my*.co* Newsgroups: rec.scuba Subject: Re: Dr. Bennett's Nitrox article Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 02:36:30 GMT And even the best-laid plans can go astray (poorly paraphrasing Steinbeck). Rich, as a boat-owner and diver, when I and my buddies head out for a wreck dive on Lakes Michigan or Superior, we don't know which wrecks have vacant moorings, until we get there. We may plan to dive the Prins Willem V in 90ffw, but if it looks busy, we'll head over to the Milwaukee Carferry in 120ffw instead, or the Dredge 906 in 70ffw, or the Norland in 60ffw. I cannot plan the ideal EAN mix for my pony for every single option. That is why I choose EAN40, realizing well that its MOD is 102ffw. If I did plan on frequent dives to 130ffw, I would choose EAN32. But I don't, and I won't. And I'm not telling anybody to follow my example either. My usual buddies also dive with a big air-filled primary and a pony too. Thanks for your opinion, and may all your dives be ideal. Regards, MJB -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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