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Steve. DIR "dead in the water". Quite the opposite, and again, I ask you to tell me what is the better way, and why, and tell me where the principles I have outlined in any of these discussions do not apply universally. Try that. We can all agree that I am not a nice guy, that I have many enemies and few friends, and that this is not going to ever change. Get over it. I will vehemently criticize the dangerous bullshit on here when it appears, and have done so for years. BTW, my tapes are absolutely hated by the real hardened strokes. Many of them have been banned at conferences and so forth. Steve, I am not interested in helping those who need it, I am interested in helping those who want it, and I am interested in exposing dangerous stupidity with extreme prejudice. So you and many of the others do not like me - too bad, I don't need you to like me, respect me or do anthing other than what you are doing and what those morons in the Dive Girl web site are doing - react to me to where they are twisted into powers of example by my mere exsitence, and I have suceeded beyond your wildest imagination when you see evidence like that ,and when you see a person such as yourself go nuts over me on the internet or other forum like so many do. That means I win. Thanks for playing. Steve, how many people make up T shirts about you and discuss and worry about you at every opportunity? How many do it about anyone in diving but me? You don't get it - that means I am winning , and winning big. I am here to stay, and my guys and their organizations are everywhere in every contry now, and growing. We are where the action is and will be . We make sense, nobody else seems to be able to do that. And by the way, your boys from the UK - the two Britsh kids that dove with Stone - they may be the best you guys have to offer, but they could not even follow our line halfway to the end in clear water in 90 uninterrupted days of trying. We put it in in three dives in 1998. On our first dive in the cave this year, Jarrod and I added line beyond where those guys put in their absolute best effort. Tell me how their way "works" and mine does not. Tell me about how Kevin Gurr went to the Britannic and fell on his face, while our guys went over there and videod inside the whole ship and all over it and came back with real information and a TV documatary in ten days? Tell me about that one? The proof of the pudding is in the eating thereof. \Steve Orrell wrote: > > Hi Trey, > > >Steve, if you can take anything I have ever said about diving and show > >me where I am wrong, I will stand corrected, but you can not do it. > > There'a single factor running through every single reply countering my > comments and that is you all seem to think I have or am criticising your > diving. Every single one of you have your bull-heads firmly in place and > have totally refused to read what I've written. > > Show me where I've criticised *anybody's* diving? > > Your diving may or may not be describable as a significant technical > achievement, it matters not one jot to me to be perfectly honest. Its not > about individuals. > > Its your [collective] social skills that, if I may be so bold, I am > criticising. They're non-existent. Your occasional macho posturing, touting > your personal so called technical achievements, doesn't give you the right > to totally denigrate the opinions of those people [on this list] who even > so much as misunderstand one of your sermons. > > The painful thing is that you're apparently too bigoted to realise the > irreparable damage you're doing to what you cherish most; your public > persona and the DIR approach to diving. > > I recently posted a comment that DIR as a system is dead in the water; > it'll be a slow lingering death, but its inevitable. > > Its those who've done do much to develop the system that have also > relegated it to a minority interest because of the bellicose posturing. > > The stock reply, when the belligerence is criticised is to say "We've tried > 'nice' " . Look back two years, three years, to the approach that was > taken then... the same anger and vehemence. Now take a look to see what's > changed, who's taking notice? No-one, absolutely no-one... at least not > outside those enquiring individuals who brave the wrath of the jingoism in > this list. > > >The fact is I have documented my stuff in coutless articles and videos, > >what have you dcne lately? > > Oh, please do you really think this pompous posturing cuts any ice? > > I don't know you from Adam, don't give a jot about your previous articles > and videos... the only thing I will do is listen if there's something worth > listening to... the only "publication's" of yours I have access to are > those in this list and, despite the achievements you allude to in life, > your signal to noise ratio in here is very very low... Ask yourself this > question, if your videos and articles were as full of the invective you > frequently use on this list would they have been anywhere near as > successful?? A resounding "NO" would be the only answer you could give. > > >How is that for "invective" - are you "bullied" now? Can you go ahead > >and unsubscribe in peace? > > :) Certainly not, I'm actually grateful that you've seemingly taken a > little time to reply (and I'm not being sarcastic here). > > -- > > Steve... -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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