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From: "Ingemar Lundgren" <ingemar.lundgren@mb*.sw*.se*>
To: <ajmarve@ba*.ne*>
Cc: "Aquanaut Mail" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: SV: NeverLost
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 00:20:34 +0100
I just new that somebody would jump at the chance at criticising this. The
pingers i have used (commercial diver units) have worked great. If this
pinger works as good it´s a good navigational aid.  I still intend to plan
my dive and deco as if i was going to miss the upline. If i miss the line
it´s not a big deal because i have planned for this. I did not want a
lecture on how to conduct a wreck dive i just wanted to know if this product
works.

I often use a scooter when diving and sometimes i leave the wreck and go for
artefact hunts, this is where the pinger comes to use.  I never lay reel on
a wreck unless penetrating, it´s just to tedious and only a beginner does
unless you are diving in horrible vis or badly fucked up wrecks. When
leaving the wreck with no pinger i use a compass. Don´t try to convice me to
bother laying reel.

The pinger is just a navigational aid. Other uses for it is measuring
distances,something that can be very useful if you are trying to identify a
newly discovered wreck.

In case i don't find the accent line again i use a spool and liftbag as
emergency accent line. I have all the deco gases i need for the deco with
me. On really deep dives where deco gases are stationed on the line i lay
reel if necessary.

Now does anyone know if this product works or not?

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Från: ajmarve@ba*.ne* [mailto:ajmarve@ba*.ne*]
Skickat: den 13 februari 2000 23:06
Till: Ingemar Lundgren
Kopia: Aquanaut Mail
Ämne: Re: NeverLost


Ingemar,

I dont have any idea about the particular unit you mention, other than Ive
seen
the ads for what three years now, and yet to see the product. One of the
guys
out here had the older style of these, with the leds that blinked, he always
seemed to get lost anyways.  Also he needed to hang it at a certain height,
which usually meant he had to leave it tied off to the anchor or he had an
inner
tube with a weight and he would set up like a lobster pot marker, only it
didnt
break the surface, and he carried that contraption in a huge bug bag. I
never
did figure out what he was going to do if the anchor pulled while he was
tied
into it, and he wasnt too clear on that either. Do you follow the signal
aimlessly off the wreck into the sand?? then what happens when they pull the
hook up?? do the deck monkeys then switch off your unit?? then what??  and
why
waste time and gas when you could have just run a line in the first place,
or
just planned the dive to do your ascent/exit/deco from the most
distant/dig/penetration point,as long as your tied in anyways?? < this leads
into what reel do you use for an upline, and then you get the jersey upline
guys
because thats the "fastest" way to rig an upline in an emergency< which you
create by wasting gas searching for the magic beeping box >, and its clear
by
then youve bought the express train to idiotland,  metaphorically speaking,
of
course, because once you swim off the wrek, what do you tie into?> Plus, my
line
reel never needs batteries, doesnt flood, and its not so expensive im
worried
about losing it.

anyways, if you get it to work, let us know.

regards,

Al Marvelli



Ingemar Lundgren wrote:

> I just received the new Scubapro catalogue and i found a very interesting
> product made by Uwatech. It´s called NeverLost and is a uw/Pinger. You
> attach a transmitter to the accent line and you carry a diver unit.  The
> diver unit will give you range info and bearing.  I have used pingers
before
> and they are really useful for low vis wreck diving or any other
application
> where it is hard to find the acentline.  Pingers used to be very expensive
> but the one from uwatech has a reasonable price. Have anyone used this
> device?  Does it work as good as advertised? How good does the bearing
> system work?
> Both the transmitter unit and the diver unit is pressure tested to 80m.
>
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