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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:11:45 +0900
To: "Walter Jaccard" <wjaccard@mi*.co*>
From: Jeffrey Swann <swanncruz@ta*.ne*.au*>
Subject: Re: on DIR divers
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
We use "Drop Kick!"
Over here down under.
Jeff Swann of Darwin.
The water is 31C.

At 14:27 18/01/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Scott,
>
>The DIR term is stroke.  We don't need a new name.
>
>Walter
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Scott <scottk@hc*.co*>
>To: Michael J. Black <mjblackmd@ya*.co*>; Aquanaut Mail
><techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 10:52 AM
>Subject: Re: on DIR divers
>
>
>> Let me take a moment to clarify here. What I was saying has already been
>> blown out of shape in several different directions.
>> Claudia was raising a very valid point of discussion, that I think would
>be
>> well discussed here. If not here, then where?
>>
>> The basic issue is that people buy all the neato gear, DIR down to the
>> o-ring on the SPG bolt snap, and are not only *not* competent divers, but
>> mistakenly think the gear makes the slightest difference. Its what is
>> between your ears that makes you DIR or not. Trout, George, feel free to
>> light me up any time. (I like the old George better, no bullshit) One of
>my
>> favorite dive buddy's dive an Atpak with independent doubles. He can dive
>> with me anytime, anywhere, and I know if it gets deep, he will be there to
>> cover my ass.
>>
>> Definitions in context to *my* thinking and vulgar vocabulary:
>>
>> 1) The Problem, or, the "Cheesedick Syndrome". Cheesedick is an old term,
>I
>> first heard from a military man. It refers to the FNG, fresh out of boot,
>> who has some training, the uniform (usually very new), and the weapons to
>go
>> to war. What he doesn't have is the *experience* to make those decisions
>> that only allow microseconds for decision making. The term Cheesedick
>refers
>> to an individual who has all the stuff, the desire, the ability, but not
>the
>> experience, but, perhaps is a little big for his britches, or simply has
>no
>> respect for his elders, or is flat arrogant. Such people can be seen as
>> everything from promising and amusing, to downright dangerous and deadly.
>> Probably every diver reading this could have been called, accurately, a
>> Cheesedick at some point in their education process.
>>
>> 2) The term "Technical Diving" is one that has been defined and re-defined
>> into oblivion. To me, Technical diving isn't simple Nitrox, doubles or a
>> single stage and a little (<20 minutes or so total) deco time. Technical
>> diving is the type of diving where your life is hanging on your knowledge,
>> skill, and problem solving ability. The type of diving where, if you fuck
>> up, or have a problem with your equipment, you either fix it, deal with
>it,
>> or you die. The best thing that can happen is a chamber ride. The worst is
>> that they never recover your stiff. Surface supplied deco dives, Sat
>dives,
>> and monster dives like the AD, Britannic and the insane shit GI and the
>boys
>> do is Technical Diving. Diving a pair of doubles on nitrox, and diving by
>> your nitrox computer and SPG is *not* Technical Diving, IMHO, it is simply
>> advanced recreational diving. We do it for fun, and because we want to
>stay
>> longer. CC rebreathers, and the Halcyon unit are Technical Diving. Use of
>> He02 mixes, and monster deco on 02 is Technical Diving. IMHO, DIR and the
>> GUE boys have the *best* handle on this type of diving. These are *my*
>> opinions and definitions, no one else's. So, if there is any flaming or
>> blame to be laid, lay it on *me.*
>>
>> Having laid this foundation, let me now say that so many divers get into
>> what they perceive to be Technical Diving, because they think the gear
>looks
>> neato. Its gadget envy. These people will take a set of doubles and a pair
>> of 50% and 02 stages to do a dive that can be safely and easily done on
>air
>> and a single stage of 50%. They are the type of diver that will turn a
>> simple, no bullshit dive into a dangerous clusterfuck. As far as I know,
>and
>> have gleaned from reading here, deco on 02 should be avoided if at all
>> possible. Its the most dangerous part of these type of dives, and its
>where
>> a lot of people get bit on the ass or killed.
>>
>> A Cheesedick will insist on, plan and do staged 02 deco dives in all
>> circumstances and dive profiles just because it looks cool.
>>
>> A Cheesedick will buy all the bitchin Techy looking gear, and be unable to
>> keep his feet off the bottom.
>>
>> A Cheesedick will resent being told, kindly or not, by older, wiser, more
>> experienced divers that what they are doing is wrong.
>>
>> There are *lots* of Instructors out there who are confirmed Cheesedicks,
>and
>> in heavy denial.
>>
>> A Cheesedick can be helped, but only if they realize they are a
>Cheesedick,
>> and want to change.
>>
>> Fortunately, counseling is available. And its free. You get it right here.
>> Now, these guys here, who invented DIR and take time out of their lives to
>> help all of us Cheesedicks learn to DIR, have another word for this
>> phenomenon; "Stroke". Its their word, I try not to use it. I believe its
>the
>> same phenomenon, however labeled.
>>
>> Now, go look in the mirror, and give yourself an honest evaluation. Do you
>> burden yourself unnecessarily with excessive gear, to do simple dives? Do
>> you burden your self and your body with 02 deco profiles, when you could
>do
>> them within minutes of the same time with a safer (50%) gas or back gas?
>Do
>> you get offended when people try to point out the errors of your ways?
>> Do you dive a double bladder 100# bondage wing? If you answer yes to any
>of
>> these questions, you are a Cheesedick.
>>
>> The only question left to ask is simple; Do you want to change? If the
>> answer to that question is yes, then all you have to do is ask questions,
>be
>> tough enough to listen and (here's the hard part) *think* about the
>answers
>> you will be given.
>>
>> I am a Cheesedick in recovery myself. I have a 2 PADI C cards, and two
>IANTD
>> shingles, and ZERO logs of my dives.
>> I plan dives on my computer, and infrequently dive by tables, but, mostly,
>I
>> dive with my experience, my wrist mounted computer, and my SPG to guide
>me.
>> No stages, no He02. Nitrox if I can get it, air if I cant. I know what I
>can
>> do, but, more importantly, I know what I *cant* do.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Michael J. Black <mjblackmd@ya*.co*>
>> To: Aquanaut Mail <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 7:41 AM
>> Subject: Re: on DIR divers
>>
>>
>> > "Scott" <scottk@hc*.co*> wrote:
>> > > She went diving with an FNG who had all the right gear, but was a
>total
>> > > cheesedick.
>> >
>> > Regarding Claudia's question about experiences with DIR divers, one
>would
>> > almost get the impression from Scott that they are arrogant and
>insulting,
>> > not exactly the way you'd want others to regard you, especially if you
>> > have a useful system for other divers to learn from.  MJB
>>
>>
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