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From: "Gliviak, Jozef" <Jozef.Gliviak@co*.co*>
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Real gas and mixing based on ideal gas equations (is it useless ?
     ??)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 18:12:57 -0000
Hello,

As you probably know from my previous mails, I'm currently in phase of
building my 
own home mixing station. During my search I found out very interesting
findings about
differencies between behavior of ideal and real gas.

we all know that this is valid for ideal gas

	p * V = n*R*T
and
	p1*V1=p2*V2 (if temperature is constant)

And on this assumption many of us try to mix their
Trimix.

But based on Van der Waals findings for real gas it looks like this in
reality

	(p+ (n*n*a/V*V))*(V-nb)=nRT

where a,b are gas dependent constants

when you use this formula for air and you for example calculate 
amount of air in 10L bottle you will get interesting results:

Temp 20Celsius, Air
presure	100Bar	150Bar	200Bar
volume	880L	1242L	1562L	

For 200Bar we've got difference appx. 22% which is HUGE
difference. That implies to me that using mixing methods based
on ideal gas and part. presures are TOTALY useless. Using oxygen
analyser we are able to check and adjust amount of oxygen quite sharp,
but we've got no clue how much Nitrogen and Helium is in the mix.


So I'd like know, if you are using this method. If not, which method do you
use ?
If yes, how you deal with these differencies between assumptions and reality
?



Regards

  Jozef Gliviak
  Slovakia
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