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From: "Rich Lesperance" <richl@uf*.ed*>
To: <ben@wi*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Cave training
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 18:10:06 -0500
Ben,

Make sure you check out the cavelist, also. You can read the archives at
http://www.aquanaut.com/bin/mlist/aquanaut/cavers/new

Don't even think about trying to subscribe though, this hasn't been possible
for almost a year <g>.

You may be surprised to find that all cave qualifications are not accepted
in all places. Recent posts from the person who operates one popular system
near Tallahassee, Madison Blue, shows TDI cards as not being accepted, so
factor that in to your decision as to which agency to take training with.

When it comes to which agency, let me toss out the traditional disclaimer on
this subject: it's the instructor, not the agency. That being said, I
haven't heard of GUE, NACD or NSS-CDS cards being turned down anywhere.

Personally, I got my training with GUE in Florida, and was very satisfied
them, I strongly recommend them. You can check out their web site at
www.gue.com and look at their "classroom" section.

Good luck with the training,

Rich L



----- Original Message -----
From: Ben Wiseley <wiseleyb@ya*.co*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 11:21 AM
Subject: Cave training


> Hi,
>
> I'm new to the mailing list and had some questions
> about Cave training.
>
> I was looking for recommendations of places to do my
> training.  I was interested in doing training in
> either Mexico or Florida but am open to any
> suggestions.
>
> What are peoples thoughts on TDI, GUE, and NSS-CDS?
> Is one group much better or is it the teacher that you
> should look for?  In Florida... when they say you need
> a "cave card" does it matter who it's from?
>
> I'm looking for very solid training but would like to
> avoid the overly opinionated people that seem to be in
> the tech community during my training (the people who
> will bite your head off if you dare to ask WHY the
> Hogarthian method is better than others).  I would
> like to find a group/individual who are more like
> teachers/scientists than some mad man military type.
> I realize that there is endless debate about every
> aspect of technical diving (although you all seem to
> agree that training is necessary).  I also realize
> that, at some point, the teacher made a decision that
> he thought was best and that everyone is very
> passionate about tech diving because people die doing
> it.  I just don't want to take classes from someone
> who verges on psychopathic if you dare ask why (which
> seems like a pretty natural thing to do in tech
> diving).
>
> My experience:  PADI Rescue Diver.  70 dives (Boston,
> Caribbean, and California).  Will be diving all of Feb
> - which should bring logged dives well over 100.  I've
> read every book I can find on technical (cave, wreck,
> deep) diving and would like to take the next step by
> starting training.
>
> Goals:  I'd like to be able to dive in moderate caves
> and minimize the risks as much as possible.
>
> Sorry for the long post.  Any information would be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> -ben
> Boston, MA
>
>
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